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Old 10-16-2012, 21:10   #51
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You didnt watch the same show I did...and everyone else did. The Mod jumped to prove the President was right...and everyone, including Fox are scoring that one for Obama.

Out of the entire night, the Libya round was Obamas biggest win. Romney fouled that one up.
No, in fact Krauthamer just said it was wrong and unfair. Chris Wallace fact checked it as going to Romney. Romney could have knocked it out of the park, but he at least got a double out of it.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:11   #52
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Romney was pushing pretty hard on Libya and if Obama believed half of what he said he must have been working very hard not to pop Romney in the jaw.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:12   #53
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Yep, now Luntz showing big change in voters in his focus group to Romney. Clear win for Romney.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:14   #54
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Romney's got a leg up on Obama though, seeing as how Romney actually banned assault weapons, all Obama has done is talk about it.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:14   #55
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No, in fact Krauthamer just said it was wrong and unfair. Chris Wallace fact checked it as going to Romney. Romney could have knocked it out of the park, but he at least got a double out of it.
I like and agree with Krauthamer a lot...but he is wrong on how that one went over.

..and that is the issue, how it went over.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:15   #56
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It was the exact opposite.
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You didnt watch the same show I did...and everyone else did. The Mod jumped to prove the President was right...and everyone, including Fox are scoring that one for Obama.

Out of the entire night, the Libya round was Obamas biggest win. Romney fouled that one up.
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What were you watching? The moderator took Obamas side and tried to shut Romney up.
Ok, by consensus I could be wrong. Fortunately, I did record the debate. I will go back and watch that part again.
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In both debates Romney has failed to explain his budget math. Obama laid out ~$8T in debt and Romney did nothing to defend it other than say he would get rid of loopholes. 8T is a lot of loopholes.
politifact.com has shown how this is actually speculation due to lack of details of Romney's plan. Again, it is only speculation from one source and in no way supported by fact.

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Old 10-16-2012, 21:16   #57
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I like and agree with Krauthamer a lot...but he is wrong on how that one went over.

..and that is the issue, how it went over.
The focus group says you are wrong.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:17   #58
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The focus group says you are wrong.
A focus group... (on Fox, which I am not watching any more)
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It should suprise none of us that the Obamanation all for an assault weapons ban.....no the question is how we go about stopping him from letting it happen.
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Romney's got a leg up on Obama though, seeing as how Romney actually banned assault weapons, all Obama has done is talk about it.
Hahah 100% true. Luckily Obama does very little of what he promises.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:21   #61
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A focus group... (on Fox, which I am not watching any more)
You more of an MSNBC guy?
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:22   #62
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The best thing romney did was focus on obama's record over the last 4 years.

The best thing obama did was distort and deflect focus from his record over the last 4 years.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:24   #63
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No, in fact Krauthamer just said it was wrong and unfair. Chris Wallace fact checked it as going to Romney. Romney could have knocked it out of the park, but he at least got a double out of it.
Romney didnít because he thought he misheard Obama and did not want to make a false accusation and call Obama a liar.

All I remember were weird apologies about a youtube video from Obama and Hillary so I was as stunned as Romney when Obama said he called it terrorism the next day.

Crowley helped save Obama too but we knew that would happen.
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Hahah 100% true. Luckily Obama does very little of what he promises.
I'm just worried that Romney is one of those "I've done it before, I can do it again guys."
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:28   #65
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politifact.com has shown how this is actually speculation due to lack of details of Romney's plan. Again, it is only speculation from one source and in no way supported by fact.
It could be total trash but Obama has brought it up in both debates and Romney has not responded to it properly either time.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:29   #66
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I'm just worried that Romney is one of those "I've done it before, I can do it again guys."
I don't know. The more I listen to Romney, the more I think he believes these issues should be left to the states. But I've been wrong before.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:30   #67
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Obama - "Mine's not as big as yours, I don't look at it that often."

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I like and agree with Krauthamer a lot...but he is wrong on how that one went over.

..and that is the issue, how it went over.
No, the issue is how it will be spun to any of the elusive undecided likely voters. Even on this thread, many of us disagree on how it went over.

People are tuning in now to find out who was declared the winner.
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You more of an MSNBC guy?
Yes, I am watching MSNBC.

I dont want to hear what people I agree with say. That does me no good.
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Referring to the "rose garden comment", Obama didn't specifically refer to the Bengazzi attack as an act of terrorism, he was speaking to "acts of terror" in a general sense. He never said Bengazzi was a terrorist attack.
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Ordered three PSA blem AR lowers before Obama even sat down....
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:35   #71
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I don't know. The more I listen to Romney, the more I think he believes these issues should be left to the states. But I've been wrong before.
Politicians lie. I spend less time listening to what they say, and more time trying to figure out what they'll actually do.

Obama says he will ban assault weapons. I believe it. It might not happen, but I think he'll at least try.

Romney says he won't ban assault weapons, but he already banned them in Massachusetts, what's stopping him from doing it again? I'd be a bit more inclined to believe him if he was pulling strings and talking to people, trying to undo the damage he did in Massachusetts.
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Politicians lie. I spend less time listening to what they say, and more time trying to figure out what they'll actually do.

Obama says he will ban assault weapons. I believe it. It might not happen, but I think he'll at least try.

Romney says he won't ban assault weapons, but he already banned them in Massachusetts, what's stopping him from doing it again? I'd be a bit more inclined to believe him if he was pulling strings and talking to people, trying to undo the damage he did in Massachusetts.
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I did find enjoy the older gentleman in the Fox focus group that said Obama has been bull______ us.
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I did find enjoy the older gentleman in the Fox focus group that said Obama has been bull______ us.
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Yeah -- that was great...


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Youtube video. Libya comes in at 1:13-1:14 where Crowley says Romney is correct and the audience claps. Crowley protected Obama on this and quickly moves on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw1K9b7qh24

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