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10-16-2012, 21:10
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You didnt watch the same show I did...and everyone else did. The Mod jumped to prove the President was right...and everyone, including Fox are scoring that one for Obama.
Out of the entire night, the Libya round was Obamas biggest win. Romney fouled that one up.
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No, in fact Krauthamer just said it was wrong and unfair. Chris Wallace fact checked it as going to Romney. Romney could have knocked it out of the park, but he at least got a double out of it.
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10-16-2012, 21:11
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Romney was pushing pretty hard on Libya and if Obama believed half of what he said he must have been working very hard not to pop Romney in the jaw.
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10-16-2012, 21:12
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Yep, now Luntz showing big change in voters in his focus group to Romney. Clear win for Romney.
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10-16-2012, 21:14
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Romney's got a leg up on Obama though, seeing as how Romney actually banned assault weapons, all Obama has done is talk about it.
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10-16-2012, 21:14
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Originally Posted by G36's Rule
No, in fact Krauthamer just said it was wrong and unfair. Chris Wallace fact checked it as going to Romney. Romney could have knocked it out of the park, but he at least got a double out of it.
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I like and agree with Krauthamer a lot...but he is wrong on how that one went over.
..and that is the issue, how it went over.
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10-16-2012, 21:15
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Originally Posted by douggmc
It was the exact opposite.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi
You didnt watch the same show I did...and everyone else did. The Mod jumped to prove the President was right...and everyone, including Fox are scoring that one for Obama.
Out of the entire night, the Libya round was Obamas biggest win. Romney fouled that one up.
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Originally Posted by PurplePirate
What were you watching? The moderator took Obamas side and tried to shut Romney up.
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Ok, by consensus I could be wrong. Fortunately, I did record the debate. I will go back and watch that part again.
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Originally Posted by RenoF250
In both debates Romney has failed to explain his budget math. Obama laid out ~$8T in debt and Romney did nothing to defend it other than say he would get rid of loopholes. 8T is a lot of loopholes.
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politifact.com has shown how this is actually speculation due to lack of details of Romney's plan. Again, it is only speculation from one source and in no way supported by fact.
Last edited by domin8ss; 10-16-2012 at 21:16..
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10-16-2012, 21:16
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Originally Posted by Rabbi
I like and agree with Krauthamer a lot...but he is wrong on how that one went over.
..and that is the issue, how it went over.
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The focus group says you are wrong.
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10-16-2012, 21:17
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Originally Posted by G36's Rule
The focus group says you are wrong.
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A focus group... (on Fox, which I am not watching any more)
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10-16-2012, 21:19
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It should suprise none of us that the Obamanation all for an assault weapons ban.....no the question is how we go about stopping him from letting it happen.
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10-16-2012, 21:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TK-421
Romney's got a leg up on Obama though, seeing as how Romney actually banned assault weapons, all Obama has done is talk about it.
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Hahah 100% true. Luckily Obama does very little of what he promises.
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10-16-2012, 21:21
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Originally Posted by Rabbi
A focus group... (on Fox, which I am not watching any more)
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You more of an MSNBC guy? 
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10-16-2012, 21:22
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The best thing romney did was focus on obama's record over the last 4 years.
The best thing obama did was distort and deflect focus from his record over the last 4 years.
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10-16-2012, 21:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G36's Rule
No, in fact Krauthamer just said it was wrong and unfair. Chris Wallace fact checked it as going to Romney. Romney could have knocked it out of the park, but he at least got a double out of it.
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Romney didn’t because he thought he misheard Obama and did not want to make a false accusation and call Obama a liar.
All I remember were weird apologies about a youtube video from Obama and Hillary so I was as stunned as Romney when Obama said he called it terrorism the next day.
Crowley helped save Obama too but we knew that would happen.
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10-16-2012, 21:25
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Originally Posted by hamster
Hahah 100% true. Luckily Obama does very little of what he promises.
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I'm just worried that Romney is one of those "I've done it before, I can do it again guys."
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10-16-2012, 21:28
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Originally Posted by domin8ss
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politifact.com has shown how this is actually speculation due to lack of details of Romney's plan. Again, it is only speculation from one source and in no way supported by fact.
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It could be total trash but Obama has brought it up in both debates and Romney has not responded to it properly either time.
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10-16-2012, 21:29
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Originally Posted by TK-421
I'm just worried that Romney is one of those "I've done it before, I can do it again guys."
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I don't know. The more I listen to Romney, the more I think he believes these issues should be left to the states. But I've been wrong before.
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10-16-2012, 21:30
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Originally Posted by Altaris
Obama - "Mine's not as big as yours, I don't look at it that often."  
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 That's sig-worthy right there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi
I like and agree with Krauthamer a lot...but he is wrong on how that one went over.
..and that is the issue, how it went over.
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No, the issue is how it will be spun to any of the elusive undecided likely voters. Even on this thread, many of us disagree on how it went over.
People are tuning in now to find out who was declared the winner.
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Last edited by ChuteTheMall; 10-16-2012 at 21:35..
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10-16-2012, 21:30
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Originally Posted by Fox184
You more of an MSNBC guy? |
Yes, I am watching MSNBC.
I dont want to hear what people I agree with say. That does me no good.
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Whenever you get mad as hell about it all, grab your rifle and head outside. If you are the only one there...it's not time yet
If I had a boat. I'd go out on the ocean. And if I had a pony. I'd ride him on my boat.
WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY! Good night!
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10-16-2012, 21:31
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Referring to the "rose garden comment", Obama didn't specifically refer to the Beng***i attack as an act of terrorism, he was speaking to "acts of terror" in a general sense. He never said Beng***i was a terrorist attack.
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10-16-2012, 21:32
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Ordered three PSA blem AR lowers before Obama even sat down....
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10-16-2012, 21:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Travclem
I don't know. The more I listen to Romney, the more I think he believes these issues should be left to the states. But I've been wrong before.
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Politicians lie. I spend less time listening to what they say, and more time trying to figure out what they'll actually do.
Obama says he will ban assault weapons. I believe it. It might not happen, but I think he'll at least try.
Romney says he won't ban assault weapons, but he already banned them in Massachusetts, what's stopping him from doing it again? I'd be a bit more inclined to believe him if he was pulling strings and talking to people, trying to undo the damage he did in Massachusetts.
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10-16-2012, 21:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TK-421
Politicians lie. I spend less time listening to what they say, and more time trying to figure out what they'll actually do.
Obama says he will ban assault weapons. I believe it. It might not happen, but I think he'll at least try.
Romney says he won't ban assault weapons, but he already banned them in Massachusetts, what's stopping him from doing it again? I'd be a bit more inclined to believe him if he was pulling strings and talking to people, trying to undo the damage he did in Massachusetts.
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10-16-2012, 21:39
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I did find enjoy the older gentleman in the Fox focus group that said Obama has been bull______ us.
-Joel
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10-16-2012, 21:42
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Originally Posted by Hurricanes
I did find enjoy the older gentleman in the Fox focus group that said Obama has been bull______ us.
-Joel
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Yeah -- that was great... 
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10-16-2012, 21:44
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Youtube video. Libya comes in at 1:13-1:14 where Crowley says Romney is correct and the audience claps. Crowley protected Obama on this and quickly moves on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw1K9b7qh24
Last edited by Flying-Dutchman; 10-16-2012 at 21:45..
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