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Old 10-16-2012, 20:36   #26
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I wish Romney would have answered the question the moderator asked. If a compromise between progun and antigun was reached that included an AWB would you sign it..
... and by his own admission of why he signed it in Mass ... YES, HE WOULD.

The man has proven to have no core. He is hollow.

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Old 10-16-2012, 20:36   #27
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The way I saw it:

Romney brought facts, Obama brought rhetoric.
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:37   #28
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:39   #29
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Smart of Obama to save the 47% thing for the close.
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:40   #30
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Well I am a Romney supporter, but I felt he did very poorly during the Libya "round".
Are you kidding? Romney put it flat on Obama, the bucks stops with Obama. Would not let him off the hook on waiting two weeks to state it was an act of terror.

It was a more two sided debate, but Obama was again on the defense most of the debate.
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:40   #31
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Smart of Obama to save the 47% thing for the close.
yeah noticed that too that way rommey could not respond to it
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:42   #32
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What say all ye neolibs that said Barry O didn't care about gun laws. I just heard it straight from the jackass' mouth. Get ready boys.

P.S. who but BHO could change the subject from guns to education in one sentence? He definitely didn't want to talk about it.
Bush and Romney agree to sign a new assault weapons ban.
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:47   #33
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:49   #34
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:54   #35
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Obama did better than last time but he still lost.

He cannot defend his record and he ran out of steam at the end.

Obama dodged the Fast and Furious topic.

Still its doubtful this debate changed anyone’s mind.
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:54   #36
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Well, at least the mask is off.

So how is the debate going overall? I'm not able to tune in right now.
It seems the Obama can lie just as well at sea level as he can at higher altitudes
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:55   #37
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Wants to have an assault weapons ban.
Well, now no matter how distasteful a candidate Romney is, I need to vote for him. Obama basically spilled the beans on his plan for another AWB:/ Had Obama kept his big mouth shut re: AWB I would have certainly voted for Gary Johnson.

That being said, I hope Romney doesn't sign a second AWB.
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:56   #38
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Are you kidding? Romney put it flat on Obama, the bucks stops with Obama. Would not let him off the hook on waiting two weeks to state it was an act of terror.

It was a more two sided debate, but Obama was again on the defense most of the debate.
Did you not see Romney being chastised by Obama and the Moo-derator taking up for Obama the whole time.

Look, I agree that the Romney won when you look at the substantive arguments, but we are talking about the opinions of the sheepish American people, as a whole.

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Old 10-16-2012, 21:01   #39
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He (Romney) did say that automatic weapons are already illegal.



Excellent point!
Not true. Heavily regulated? Yes.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:02   #40
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If the President loses re-election, I think a very heavy weight of that will fall square on the gun issue because of the new AWB comment.

That said, however, look at EXACTLY what he said:
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Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced
Notice he didn't say passed, or in place, or in effect. I stand by what I've said for YEARS: The Democrats remember 1994, and they are NOT politically suicidal enough to pass it again. And even that is presuming they regain control of BOTH houses (an unlikely event).

Everyone can (and has, and will continue to) shout "Look! See! Here it comes!!" but that's still no more realistic today than it was yesterday. What I think you saw was the President preaching to his base. If it hits the Senate floor and gets shot down, they can still tell their people 'See, we tried, damn those Right-Wingers, but we couldn't do it!'


But, as I said, if the re-election bid is lost, that comment is going to be a major factor.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:02   #41
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Obama won the Libya round....he really turned it on.
I fail to see how when Romney pointed out the Obama took 14 days to declare Libya a terrorist attack, and Obama wanted the transcripts of a press conference in three rose garden 2 days after the Libya attack. The moderator declared Romney was right.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:03   #42
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These town hall debates are just sloppy and unprofessional.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:05   #43
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I fail to see how when Romney pointed out the Obama took 14 days to declare Libya a terrorist attack, and Obama wanted the transcripts of a press conference in three rose garden 2 days after the Libya attack. The moderator declared Romney was right.
It was the exact opposite.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:05   #44
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I fail to see how when Romney pointed out the Obama took 14 days to declare Libya a terrorist attack, and Obama wanted the transcripts of a press conference in three rose garden 2 days after the Libya attack. The moderator declared Romney was right.
You didnt watch the same show I did...and everyone else did. The Mod jumped to prove the President was right...and everyone, including Fox are scoring that one for Obama.

Out of the entire night, the Libya round was Obamas biggest win. Romney fouled that one up.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:07   #45
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On a serious note though....this was the first time I have heard him just come out and say, Yes I will go for another AWB. Him flat out admitting that 'should' get a lot of gun owners against him.
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I fail to see how when Romney pointed out the Obama took 14 days to declare Libya a terrorist attack, and Obama wanted the transcripts of a press conference in three rose garden 2 days after the Libya attack. The moderator declared Romney was right.
What were you watching? The moderator took Obamas side and tried to shut Romney up.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:07   #47
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I wish Romney would have answered the question the moderator asked. If a compromise between progun and antigun was reached that included an AWB would you sign it..
He avoided the question twice.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:08   #48
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:09   #49
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In both debates Romney has failed to explain his budget math. Obama laid out ~$8T in debt and Romney did nothing to defend it other than say he would get rid of loopholes. 8T is a lot of loopholes.
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Old 10-16-2012, 21:10   #50
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Palmetto state's going to be out of lowers again tomorrow

I can't believe that Obama actually just came right out and said it. I wish that Romney could have sunk his teeth in w/ fast and furious a little more though...
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