[mjkeat]

Originally Posted by M&P15T

Well, that's the point to the filter. Don't read my posts if they offend you.

You're a joke guy. Mike could school you on a thing or two.

The Dr. prescribes less typing more reading.

Originally Posted by M&P15T

I've never claimed to be an AR ninja....and your example of being one is why.

Quote one single instance where I claimed some sort AR ninjary and I'll never post again

[AK_Stick]

Anyone else find it ironic, that the only guy telling people to leave, and to not read his posts if they offend other people is the same guy complaining that other people are bullying/pushing posters out?



I dunno man, you've got problems, and you seem to be inventing things to be mad about. Even searching this forum, I don't see any times that I've beat anyone up for buying cheap gear/guns, or because they don't do what I do, or have the training I have.


Best of luck with that.

[mvician]

Originally Posted by M&P15T

Well, that's the point to the filter. Still, I can stop it if it offends you.

It doesn't offend me, it just takes away any credibility to anything you have to say, right or wrong.

No one else in this thread is cussing like a drunken sailor, why do you feel like you have to? To try to get your opinion across?

Yelling and screaming like a child who isn't getting their way? Calling people names.....you're drawing attention to yourself, and it isn't good attention.

just my 2 cents....I'll go back to

[mjkeat]

I want to admit something. As much as I want to help crush all the misinformation being spread there is a piece of me that enjoys reading FN's and M&P's posts. It's like driving past a wreck.

[faawrenchbndr]

Originally Posted by mvician

It doesn't offend me, it just takes away any credibility to anything you have to say, right or wrong.

No one else in this thread is cussing like a drunken sailor, why do you feel like you have to? To try to get your opinion across?

Yelling and screaming like a child who isn't getting their way? Calling people names.....you're drawing attention to yourself, and it isn't good attention.

just my 2 cents....I'll go back to

Very well stated Mike,.......can I have some of that popcorn?




Thanks......

[Big Mad Dawg]

Originally Posted by M&P15T

No, no, that's as wrong as I could possibly be.....and a perfectly clear example of my psychoses.

The point is that I absolutely, positively don't care about training, service, or AR skillz......it's like I'm a broken record of "look how bad-arse I am!!" I've seen 12 year olds with more self-esteem and less need to prove themselves above all others and yet I am just that pathetic.

fixed it for you

The first and toughest step is to be able to recognize that you have serious mental issues then you can start to work on them. You have made a good start I hope someday you make a full recovery.

[FLglockdude]

First of all, in before the lock.

Secondly, its no secret that an aimpoint or eotech is better than a primary arms sight. I'm sure the OP is well aware of that. Not everybody has a want or need for equipment that can go fight a war. I have a Vortexx Strikefire on my rifle, I know its not an aimpoint but it puts rounds on target. Would I rather have an aimpoint, hell yes, but at this point in my life I am not going to spend $600+ on an optic.

Do you own a vehicle that is capable off-road or that can go fast in the one in a million chance you will need it? No you don't because it doesn't make sense, this is the same thing. If you want it and can afford it, more power to you, but don't jump on somebody's **** because they don't see the need for top shelf gear.

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[mjkeat]

Originally Posted by FLglockdude

First of all, in before the lock.

Secondly, its no secret that an aimpoint or eotech is better than a primary arms sight. I'm sure the OP is well aware of that. Not everybody has a want or need for equipment that can go fight a war. I have a Vortexx Strikefire on my rifle, I know its not an aimpoint but it puts rounds on target. Would I rather have an aimpoint, hell yes, but at this point in my life I am not going to spend $600+ on an optic.

Do you own a vehicle that is capable off-road or that can go fast in the one in a million chance you will need it? No you don't because it doesn't make sense, this is the same thing. If you want it and can afford it, more power to you, but don't jump on somebody's **** because they don't see the need for top shelf gear.

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Good post and I mostly agree. However, (not you) the same 1-2 like to misinform by making statements of "just as good." As you know this is not true and quite frankly sets up others for failure. These are the same people who scoff at weapons familiarization and safety.

[mjkeat]

Originally Posted by mvician

It doesn't offend me, it just takes away any credibility to anything you have to say, right or wrong.

No one else in this thread is cussing like a drunken sailor, why do you feel like you have to? To try to get your opinion across?

Yelling and screaming like a child who isn't getting their way? Calling people names.....you're drawing attention to yourself, and it isn't good attention.

just my 2 cents....I'll go back to

It also shows a lack of confidence in your argument. It's a last ditch effort as you're ship is sinking.

[doc540]

I chose to spend about $100 on an optic and was criticized for that choice.

NO ONE here knows my current employment or financial situation.

Furthermore, none of the critics has a clue about what I paid for the SBR.

Spend your money on what you want, and I'll spend my money on what I can afford and what best suits my application.

[LL6]

Originally Posted by doc540

I chose to spend about $100 on an optic and was criticized for that choice.

NO ONE here knows my current employment or financial situation.

Furthermore, none of the critics has a clue about what I paid for the SBR.

Spend your money on what you want, and I'll spend my money on what I can afford and what best suits my application.

/thumbsup

I'm not building a 'boutique' gun so I'm buying a TRS-25. It's a quality optic but in no way am I thinking it's better that the $500+ ones, but it's also not a cheap plastic knock-off either.

People need to get past the price tag and realize there is a range of acceptable quality vs junk.

[matt_lowry123]

This is one of the best threads I've seen for a bit!!!

[Snaps]

wow, and here I was checking back in ot see more budget type quality optics.

[Travclem]

Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr

Very well stated Mike,.......can I have some of that popcorn?




Thanks......

Pass that over here

[Sharkey]

Originally Posted by MadMonkey

Really? Higher price = better regardless of materials used, workmanship?

Oh c'mon, don't you know that? That is why MB and BMW constantly rank up there in JD Powers and Consumer Report ratings.

[CigarandScotch]

There's one troll I keep seeing in all the troll fights here.

Maybe he is the one that needs to GTFO. I, for one, am tired of seeing his long winded drivel every time there is an argument on GT.

[fnfalman]

Originally Posted by mjkeat

I want to admit something. As much as I want to help crush all the misinformation being spread there is a piece of me that enjoys reading FN's and M&P's posts. It's like driving past a wreck.

Crush what misinformation? That every civilian AR15 has to have a thousand dollars worth of optics and accessories on it so that the civilians can fight off Red Dawn 2?

[fnfalman]

Originally Posted by Snaps

wow, and here I was checking back in ot see more budget type quality optics.

Budget type quality optics?

NO!!! Your life depends on it!!! It's for Seriously Use!!! Professionally Trained people use it!!! Combat soldiers use it!!!

[fnfalman]

Originally Posted by AK_Stick

Pretty much every time you or Fal post, its to berate someone in a thread, if you're tired of the arguing, and the bickering, I think you know how to not click on a thread. Most of the arguing, seems to be you two, going from forum to forum looking for fights to pick with long time posters in those forums.

I'm not berating anybody. I'm simply poking fun at those who take themselves too seriously and being all self-righteous about combat this and combat that when the OP just wanted to talk about some cheap toys.

[fnfalman]

Originally Posted by M&P15T

I don't care what you do, how you do it, or what you know. I don't want to take classes, read, or educate myself to take ARs seriously, because I would be concerned I'd end-up like a paranoid freak such as yourself. You are genuinely weird, like ARs and combat are all you care about. I cannot fathom the bizzare world of continuous paranoia you live in, and levels of egomanical need you have to be an AR Yoda.

No one but you, AK, and a handful of other posters want to talk about your bad-arse uber-tactical ninja AR skillz,

Don't judge them too harshly. Chalk it up to youthful exuberance. I was like that twenty-something years ago and the old timers had a good fun time laughing at me too.

[cowboy1964]

What ammo do you see running in that, for SHTF/zombie use?

[mvician]

Originally Posted by fnfalman

Crush what misinformation? That every civilian AR15 has to have a thousand dollars worth of optics and accessories on it so that the civilians can fight off Red Dawn 2?

This misinformation that cheap stuff is "just as good as".

[CigarandScotch]

Originally Posted by mvician

This misinformation that cheap stuff is "just as good as".

+1

If you don't want it or can't afford it, or just can't justify having it....don't buy it. But don't get into a purse swinging contest on the internet about it because you are butthurt...

[DaleGribble]

Originally Posted by mvician

This misinformation that cheap stuff is "just as good as".

My only post to this train wreck...

IMHO the "just as good as" needs a qualifier attached to it. For the professional trigger puller the cheaper optics will never be "just as good as" and Marshall of Primary Arms has said the same about his very own products.

For the guy that shoots his AR occasionally and only at the paper zombies it is "just as good as" a high end optic.

When I got paid to carry a weapon I used an Eotech. Now that I don't and my AR's are a hobby I won't drop that kind of coin for a range toy.

Just my humble opinion.

And now, back to the

[fnfalman]

Originally Posted by mvician

This misinformation that cheap stuff is "just as good as".

Who claimed that the Chinese knockoffs are "just as good as" Trijicon/Leupold/Eotech/Aimpoint/Zeiss/Schmidt&Bender?

I read that some claimed the el cheapos are "good enough" for their owners' purposes.