[faawrenchbndr]

Originally Posted by ithaca_deerslayer

The BCM rifle MSRP, on the BCM website. Don't know what Geissele is yet, a company that makes triggers?

Correct,.....some say they are the best.
I prefer Timney triggers.

[avenues165]

You seem to be looking for a rifle that will "do it all," so to speak. If you want an 18" barrel, a really good choice, in my very humble opinion, would be one of the following:

1. Larue PredatAR 18" - Lightweight, lightweight profile barrel, accuracy will be very good. It is a lightweight profile barrel, so accuracy may drop off a little if the barrel gets hot. How much if at all, I can't say.

2. Larue PredatOBR 18" - Hybrid of the PredatAR and the OBR, which is a heavier rifle more suited for precision shooting. The PredatOBR will have a heavier profile barrel, so it should maintain more accuracy with a hot barrel.

3. A lower of your choice with a BCM SS410 18" upper - Find an lower that is set up the way you like (A2 stock or collapsible, two-stage trigger, etc.), and buy a BCM upper. They are mid weight profiled barrels, and I really have read many accounts of them shooting subMOA groups with the right optic, trigger, and ammo. They use the USMC SAM-R chamber, which IIRC, is very similar to a Wylde chamber. That means it will handle 5.56 and .223 rounds. If you go this route you should note that BCM sells the uppers without a BCG and charging handle. I would buy the upper with a BCG so you can have them headspace it.

Any of these set ups would allow you great accuracy, and I would be proud to show any of these set-ups off to peers

I personally am setting up a precision-oriented "do it all" with a Spikes lower, a SOPMOD stock, Geiselle trigger (probably a SD-E), BCM 16" SS410 barreled upper (haven't decided on handguard), and either 1-6X or 2.5-10X scope.

It is taking me a long time to gather the funds, but I know it will be worth it!!

[avenues165]

Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr

Correct,.....one say they are the best.
I prefer Timney triggers.

Timney triggers are very nice from what I have read. I have never had the pleasure to try one.

[ithaca_deerslayer]

Originally Posted by avenues165

You seem to be looking for a rifle that will "do it all," so to speak. If you want an 18" barrel, a really good choice, in my very humble opinion, would be one of the following:

1. Larue

Some pricey stuff
http://www.laruetactical.com/rifles

[avenues165]

Originally Posted by ithaca_deerslayer

Some pricey stuff
http://www.laruetactical.com/rifles

It is pricy, but really nice

I think the PredatAR is the best deal, considering what you get with it.

The third option I listed with a BCM upper would definitely be the cheapest. Minus optics, optic mount, and Geisele trigger I figure my rifle will come in at ~$1,300.00 (spikes standard AR trigger in it).

I don't know much about it, but Stag Arms makes a 3 gun rifle (Model 3G) that might be worth a look. Probably accurate but a little lighter than a heavy barreled rifle. I don't know who they get their SS barrels from, or if they make them in-house. Has a Geissele super 3-gun trigger, sampson handguard, 18" SS barrel with rifle-length gas system, 5.56 NATO chamber, 1/8 twist, Magpul ACS stock and MOE pistol grip, 3-gun compensator. Looks like a pretty nice set up!

[ithaca_deerslayer]

I've learned a lot in this thread. After shooting, and reading, I think l'm heading toward a national match rifle of some sort. I should start a new thread about that more specific interest.

Thanks all for the great input and helping me to refine my interests in an evil black rifle Hope to see you in the next thread if you've got opinions on national match rifles.