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Old 10-11-2012, 17:24   #21
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He can convert it to 9mm with just a barrel and a magazine.

Needs to be a conversion barrel.

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Awesome, isn't it? Three cartridges in one pistol You can do even more with a 10mm.
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Old 10-11-2012, 18:30   #22
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As mentioned, try 180 grain loads. The Winchester ranger are soft to shoot even in my G27. The 155 and 165 grain loads can be more stout, though Speer loads a "light" 165 grain load for some LE agencies that asked for it. Here are the two loads for comparison:

http://le.atk.com/ammunition/speer/h...=53949%2C53970
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Old 10-11-2012, 19:09   #23
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I said before, I have 9 mm, .357 Sig and .40 cal in my G27, and cannot feel much difference between them. I have shot a G22 and it was lighter recoil.

The G27 .40 is not a big deal.

It is what you expect it to be.
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Old 10-11-2012, 20:51   #24
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It depends on the weight of the bullet AND the velocity. You can't just make a blanket statement like "180's shoot softer than 165's" and expect it to match reality. Look on manufacturer's websites until you find someone still manufacturing the old FBI load, a 180 grain bullet going between 950 and 980fps. That is a pleasant load to shoot, and is the load the .40 caliber pistols were first built around. They also use to make American Eagle ammo in a 165 grain bullet doing the same velocity and it was a real sweet shooting round for target practice.

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Old 10-11-2012, 21:55   #25
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a 180 grain bullet going between 150 and 180fps.
What were you were trying to say there? 950 and 980?

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Old 10-11-2012, 22:47   #26
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You may want to try a rubber grip sleeve.
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Old 10-12-2012, 14:05   #27
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You may want to try a rubber grip sleeve.
I use one on my G17.
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Old 10-12-2012, 17:58   #28
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What were you were trying to say there? 950 and 980?
Oops! Yeah. Major Typo there. Fixed it.
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Old 10-13-2012, 14:23   #29
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I thought so.

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Oops! Yeah. Major Typo there. Fixed it.
Thanks for the fix.
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Old 10-13-2012, 14:47   #30
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I just bought a Gen 4 G22 .40 S&W and the recoil is crazy. Everything I have read said that was suppose to be a little bit more than the 9mm recoil. Was wondering if I should get new recoil springs. You'd think with the new version of spring that is in a Gen 4 there wouldn't be that much recoil.
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Old 10-13-2012, 15:41   #31
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What is that - a .22 conversion kit for Glocks?
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Old 10-13-2012, 19:13   #32
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Old 10-13-2012, 19:36   #33
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Old 10-13-2012, 21:24   #35
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Who offers it?
Advantage Arms, Tactical Solutions, Ciener and I am sure I am letting out a few. You can get them for full size, compact and subcompact Glocks as well as other pistol makes.

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Old 10-14-2012, 12:22   #36
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Advantage Arms, Tactical Solutions, Ciener and I am sure I am letting out a few. You can get them for full size, compact and subcompact Glocks as well as other pistol makes.
I just may get one!
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Old 10-14-2012, 20:53   #37
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Everyone likes to jack the .40 S&W to the maximum velocity they can achieve with it... and then they sit around complaining that it is a "snappy" uncomfortable cartridge.

Look at a couple of offerings from Double Tap Ammo:

A 180gr .40S&W doing 1140fps

Now, to get that velocity out of a .45ACP, you have to step up to a +P load from mainstream manufacturers, and guess what..... .45ACP+P loads are snappy.

They also have a 125gr .40S&W going 1445fps

To get that velocity out of a 125 grain bullets, you'd need a .357 magnum, and guess what.... .357 magnums are snappy.

The .40S&W is snappy if you make it snappy. It doesn't have to be.

38 special +P 158gr semi-wadcutter "FBI load" has been one of the best snubby loads for years, at around 800fps out of a snubby's barrel.

The "legendary manstopper" 230 grain .45 ACP earned that reputation doing 850fps.

The .40S&W will also work well at velocities under 1000fps, as long as you use the right bullet.
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Everyone likes to jack the .40 S&W to the maximum velocity they can achieve with it... and then they sit around complaining that it is a "snappy" uncomfortable cartridge.

Look at a couple of offerings from Double Tap Ammo:

A 180gr .40S&W doing 1140fps

Now, to get that velocity out of a .45ACP, you have to step up to a +P load from mainstream manufacturers, and guess what..... .45ACP+P loads are snappy.

They also have a 125gr .40S&W going 1445fps

To get that velocity out of a 125 grain bullets, you'd need a .357 magnum, and guess what.... .357 magnums are snappy.

The .40S&W is snappy if you make it snappy. It doesn't have to be.

38 special +P 158gr semi-wadcutter "FBI load" has been one of the best snubby loads for years, at around 800fps out of a snubby's barrel.

The "legendary manstopper" 230 grain .45 ACP earned that reputation doing 850fps.

The .40S&W will also work well at velocities under 1000fps, as long as you use the right bullet.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:13   #39
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Shot some of the Ranger 135gr today. It's pretty low recoiling, for sure. About the same as 180s. Seems a tad louder though, but that doesn't matter.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:07   #40
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9mm mid-size bullet (124g federal fmj) has approx 365 ft lbs of energy.

.40 mid-size bullet (165g federal fmj) has approx 470 ft lbs of energy, so approx 30% more energy which results in approx 30% more recoil, all other things being consistent (gun weight, etc)..

there is no free lunch when going to heavier caliber firearms.

glocks aren't known for their ergo's and narrow grips; maybe try out some other brands to see if something fits better. also check out 1911 models which have excellent ergo's.
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