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10-10-2012, 18:13
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Amsterdam Haze
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Originally Posted by jeanderson
I have only been carrying for a couple of months now, in my laptop bag to work. I know a lot of people disagree with that method of carry, but now that it's getting colder I'll think about using a paddle holster under my jacket.
There is no law in Ohio prohibiting me from carrying in a bank. My bank has no posted signs banning guns. The branch I go to was robbed last week.
So, would you (do you) carry when visiting your bank?
On the one hand I think it's clearly a place where a BG with gun may show up. On the other hand, I wouldn't want anyone to see me carrying and panic, leading to who knows what.
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I carry into my bank everytime I go in. This is especially true if conducting cash transactions. I use my CHL as my second ID to my drivers license.
At one time, I had an account at a financial institution that posted a proper "no handguns" sign. As I was preparing to go on vacation and was making a cash withdrawl of $4000, I was not about to go into the place unarmed. They had NO armed guard to escort me to my truck, either. I was left with only one option. Texas law allows the carry of long guns with license not required. The financial place didn't allow handguns, but said NOTHING about long guns. I walked in with my AR slung over my shoulder.  Man, did I ever attract attention! 
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10-10-2012, 18:55
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Location: Bremen, GA
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If i had a local bank I would. Perfectly legal.
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10-10-2012, 21:52
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Zoo, MI.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lior
Just go about your business at the bank with your shooter concealed from casual observation - you'll be fine.
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Yes. You'll be fine.
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10-11-2012, 13:09
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#29
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I have been carrying into banks (in Florida, where as already stated, it is legal) for years. Conceal properly and there should be no problem.
I even went to the bank to have my CCL renewal notarized the last time around. The guy who helped me said he had been doing a lot of them recently, and seemed quite comfortable with it. He didn't ask if I was carrying at the moment, but I got the impression that he assumed I was, and he would have been correct.
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10-11-2012, 13:42
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Banks are private property and may impose their own rules. The Federal Government may own shares of a bank but they DO NOT function as Federal Property.
I just don't like to carry inside a bank so as mentioned before, I use the Drive By, oops, strike that... I meant the Drive Thru. 
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10-12-2012, 11:41
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That's a big no-no here in PA. No banks, courthouses, schools
or anywhere that's sells/serves alcohol. If it was legal? I don't know. Maybe. Heck of a place to have someone spot it and freak out.
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10-12-2012, 11:52
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Shelocta, Pa.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetnut259
That's a big no-no here in PA. No banks, courthouses, schools
or anywhere that's sells/serves alcohol. If it was legal? I don't know. Maybe. Heck of a place to have someone spot it and freak out.
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Sorry but you can OC/CC in banks, non secured parts of courthouses, any place that sells or serves alcohol in Pa. I OC at my bank twice a week. The Courthouse must have lockers for you to secure your weapons at the metal detectors or security point. You can drink while OC/CC in any establishment that serves.
Last edited by Jud325; 10-12-2012 at 11:57..
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10-12-2012, 16:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jud325
Sorry but you can OC/CC in banks, non secured parts of courthouses, any place that sells or serves alcohol in Pa. I OC at my bank twice a week. The Courthouse must have lockers for you to secure your weapons at the metal detectors or security point. You can drink while OC/CC in any establishment that serves.
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If that's true, they've changed the laws in the 20 years since my first CCW permit in PA. That was the first (and only) time I was ever told what the carry laws were. From then on it was just going through the renewal process. I have looked for a listing of the specific restrictions a few times since then, but never really found anything official. Do you have a link to anything?
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10-12-2012, 16:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanderson
There is no law in Ohio prohibiting me from carrying in a bank. My bank has no posted signs banning guns. The branch I go to was robbed last week.
So, would you (do you) carry when visiting your bank?
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Are you seriously asking?
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10-12-2012, 17:00
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Originally Posted by Schlitz
Are you seriously asking? |
This is an issue with many people, so I'd say yes! Many members here are new to carrying, and have limited resources for decent info.
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10-12-2012, 17:22
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CLM Number 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetnut259
That's a big no-no here in PA. No banks, courthouses, schools
or anywhere that's sells/serves alcohol. If it was legal? I don't know. Maybe. Heck of a place to have someone spot it and freak out.
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The only places I can find, other than the federal no-go places, for PA are:
Schools K-12
Secure portions of a court house
Casinos
PA, WA, AL, CA and DE are some of the absolutely best states with regards to where you can carry as they have the fewest restrictions. They're also of the first generation may/shall issue states before the sky is falling anti gun types got hold of the requirements.
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10-12-2012, 18:23
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CLM Number 182
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glotin
You can be asked to leave any private property at any time for trespassing, no?
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Yes, and no.
If you are at a bank where you are conducting business according to their code of conduct, and there are no stated emergencies you cannot simply be asked to leave, because it's your day to leave.
You are their customer. Say for example you have a safe deposit box there, or are in the process of depositing or withdrawing a large sum of money...you think they can just arbitrarily ask you to leave?
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10-12-2012, 19:40
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Location: Midwest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetnut259
If that's true, they've changed the laws in the 20 years since my first CCW permit in PA. That was the first (and only) time I was ever told what the carry laws were. From then on it was just going through the renewal process. I have looked for a listing of the specific restrictions a few times since then, but never really found anything official. Do you have a link to anything?
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Don't know a thing about PA.
But in my state, I follow the laws closely. I call up the state website online at least once a year and look at all the applicable laws for changes. I also use handgun law US as a backup. I don't trust anything but the state website, and a direct reading of the applicable state laws
Same for the other states I travel in.
Last edited by Caver 60; 10-12-2012 at 21:57..
Reason: typo
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10-12-2012, 20:01
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Shelocta, Pa.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetnut259
If that's true, they've changed the laws in the 20 years since my first CCW permit in PA. That was the first (and only) time I was ever told what the carry laws were. From then on it was just going through the renewal process. I have looked for a listing of the specific restrictions a few times since then, but never really found anything official. Do you have a link to anything?
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Not to be smart, but you carry a Pa. LTCF. Pick up a copy of the Pa. Uniform firearm act at your local state Rep. or Senators office. If you would like to ask questions Pa. specific, see here.
pa2a.org or pafoa.org
Last edited by Jud325; 10-12-2012 at 20:03..
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10-12-2012, 21:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jud325
Not to be smart, but you carry a Pa. LTCF. Pick up a copy of the Pa. Uniform firearm act at your local state Rep. or Senators office. If you would like to ask questions Pa. specific, see here.
pa2a.org or pafoa.org
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Yeah, I am familiar with both of the sites you've listed. Unless I missed something, neither one specifically spells out where you can't carry concealed in PA with a LTCF. I would love to see an official PA listing of the restrictions. Twenty years ago when I got my first license to carry, the sheriff of my county at that time gave me the following restrictions:
No schools
No banks, credit unions or other financial institutions
No courthouses
Nowhere that sells or serves alcohol
If any of those have changed, I would love to see it in writing.
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10-12-2012, 21:46
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetnut259
Yeah, I am familiar with both of the sites you've listed. Unless I missed something, neither one specifically spells out where you can't carry concealed in PA with a LTCF. I would love to see an official PA listing of the restrictions. Twenty years ago when I got my first license to carry, the sheriff of my county at that time gave me the following restrictions:
No schools
No banks, credit unions or other financial institutions
No courthouses
Nowhere that sells or serves alcohol
If any of those have changed, I would love to see it in writing.
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From what I can tell, it's illegal to carry in a court building and a school, it didn't say anything about not being allowed to carry in a bank. However, I just browsed it, and used the search function, so it's possible I missed something. I didn't check out any sections about alcohol, so I can't comment on that.
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI.../PDF/18/18.PDF
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10-12-2012, 21:47
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10-12-2012, 22:05
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BLR
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Utah
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The rare times I go into our bank I carry.
Their only request is to take off sunglasses and lower the hoody before coming inside. Considering events of late I think that's reasonable.
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10-12-2012, 22:06
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Indiana
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Perfectly legal here in Indiana. I even OC on occasion.
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10-13-2012, 00:43
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Las Vegas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanderson
I have only been carrying for a couple of months now, in my laptop bag to work. I know a lot of people disagree with that method of carry, but now that it's getting colder I'll think about using a paddle holster under my jacket.
There is no law in Ohio prohibiting me from carrying in a bank. My bank has no posted signs banning guns. The branch I go to was robbed last week.
So, would you (do you) carry when visiting your bank?
On the one hand I think it's clearly a place where a BG with gun may show up. On the other hand, I wouldn't want anyone to see me carrying and panic, leading to who knows what.
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Of course I would carry into my bank. I always do. Perfectly lawful. Why would anyone see you carrying. I have been carrying for 5 yrs now. I go to family partys with 15 people in close proximity and no one ever knows. You need to know how to carry correctly. Nothing tight. Larger shirts for instance.
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10-13-2012, 07:23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Las Vegas
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Some of the most horrid crimes in America have been committed by banks. That's plenty of reason for me to be armed in a bank.
At the rate our bankers are going, it won't be long before they'll simply have armed thugs inside the door to steal your money. After all, why go through the motions of having you make a deposit before they steal it?
(Stepping down from soapbox now.) 
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10-13-2012, 08:34
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Location: Central Virginia
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Originally Posted by Indianashooter
Perfectly legal here in Indiana. I even OC on occasion.
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Same-Same here in Virginia.
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10-13-2012, 08:57
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Location: Zombieland, Ga
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My credit union has a No Weapons sign but I ignore it. Signs carry no weight here in GA. They also have a No Sunglasses No Hoodies sign. I wear glasses (Transition lenses) and they turn dark in sunlight and lighten back up when out of the sun, but they take a little time to do so. Went into the CU last week and as I walked by the front counter to get to the tellers she says, "Hey, no sunglasses allowed in the CU." I said they were Transition glasses and just kept on walking. She didn't notice my concealed M&P Shield. 
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10-13-2012, 09:13
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Hell yes I do.
I do not know the stats, but I would guess in a bank, would be way up on a list of places you would most likely need/use a CW.
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10-13-2012, 21:19
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Senior Member
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Location: Northern Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lior
Just go about your business at the bank with your shooter concealed from casual observation - you'll be fine.
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I agree.
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