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10-11-2012, 20:33
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Ryan's closing statement was much better than Biden's. Well delivered, and was looking the camera head on.
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if you don't spend $3500 on a one-off custom made 1911 that was made on machines lubricated with the blood of poor people, it's a piece of garbage, and will inevitably cost you your life.
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10-11-2012, 20:35
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Anti-Obama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bow Commander
Ryan's closing statement was much better than Biden's. Well delivered, and was looking the camera head on.
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It also repeated his main points from the beginning of the debate, which was important.
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10-11-2012, 20:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuteTheMall
It also repeated his main points from the beginning of the debate, which was important.
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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Contact
if you don't spend $3500 on a one-off custom made 1911 that was made on machines lubricated with the blood of poor people, it's a piece of garbage, and will inevitably cost you your life.
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10-11-2012, 20:37
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#79
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Biden lied about the Libyan terrorist attack.
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10-11-2012, 20:40
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#80
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Anti-Obama
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Location: Rope & Chains
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Goofy laughing hyena grinning and interrupting, repeating himself loudly, didn't bring the facts.
Jackasses will eat this crap up, likely voters won't.
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10-11-2012, 20:43
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Slacked jawed
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Yea, I would say it was a tie. Joe did better then everyone expected, but he looked a little bit like a belligerent prick.
Ryan knew his stuff, but I think he was a little stiff. Romney plays the emotions well, Ryan not so much.
The Catholic/Abortion issue..feehh I don't think Ryan played it too bad. Its up to the states, and the Democrats/obamacare are coming down on Catholic healthcare. Trust me I didn't cringe like I do with the old Christian Taliban candidates like Santorium and Bachmann.
One funny thing that was just mentioned online...during the debateRyan stole Biden's water glass and took a sip.
Jeez...ABC post coverage is very slanted left 
Last edited by Bilbo Bagins; 10-11-2012 at 20:46..
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10-11-2012, 20:43
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#82
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Anti-Obama
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Originally Posted by Hussell_Crowe
Ryan is an emotionless drone, I cant tell if he's a robot or not. Romney won the presidential debate, Ryan lost this debate.
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Biden was a loud laughing clown, unable to follow the math.
Hey Hussell, you've been gone from GT for months.
Did you find a new babysitting gig yet?
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10-11-2012, 20:46
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mange takk
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Central Iowa
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A lot of spin about Biden's debate style. Overtly aggressive, condescending, and "…too much Red Bull."
Pretty even, from a literal perspective, but image can be everything.
Overall, I'd call it even. Both seemed to be talking to their perspective base. I don't see many votes being swayed tonight.
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10-11-2012, 20:50
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Confederate
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Thank God for Libertarians. These 2 candidates make me happy that there is a 3rd choice.
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10-11-2012, 20:56
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Always Carrying
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I'll call it......Strike Two!
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10-11-2012, 20:58
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#86
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there isn't other choices, Romney or Obobo Will be President, and a failed republican pretending to be a Libertarian and polling at half a percent is not a contender.
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10-11-2012, 21:01
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#87
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Biden led thru most of the debate. But for the last 10 or 15 minutes I really began to wonder if he was having a medical problem. It was like he was drained of energy, he actually hemmed and hawed. Ryan was unprepared for the rude clown tactics and it showed.
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10-11-2012, 21:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinytop
Biden led thru most of the debate. But for the last 10 or 15 minutes I really began to wonder if he was having a medical problem. It was like he was drained of energy, he actually hemmed and hawed. Ryan was unprepared for the rude clown tactics and it showed.
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I noticed that about Biden. His voice fell into that of a 30 year smoker or something.
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Originally Posted by Contact
if you don't spend $3500 on a one-off custom made 1911 that was made on machines lubricated with the blood of poor people, it's a piece of garbage, and will inevitably cost you your life.
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10-11-2012, 21:08
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NRA Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: On the Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Restless28
Thank God for Libertarians. These 2 candidates make me happy that there is a 3rd choice.
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Yeah, because this guy is soooo Presidential.
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10-11-2012, 21:17
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SortaHeuristic
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDog
Yeah, because this guy is soooo Presidential.
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I know right?
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10-11-2012, 21:27
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#91
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NRA Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
I think it will be a nasty debate. However I don't expect Ryan to lose.
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Well, even after the debate...I stand by this.
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10-11-2012, 21:28
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#92
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Ryan or Biden is like a coin toss with a two tailed coin.
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10-11-2012, 21:35
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The moderator failed miserably to be fair, but helped the democrat debate... I give her a failing grade at doing what she was supposed to do... It seemed very biased to me, and all biden's tactics were just as slimy as I expect from everything that he's about and the moderator did little to nothing in regard to keeping it straight for Ryan's behalf...
Last edited by K.Kiser; 10-11-2012 at 21:37..
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10-11-2012, 21:38
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SortaHeuristic
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Interruptions:
Biden = 96
Ryan = 6
Great job moderator. How many pointed follow up questions did the "moderator" ask Biden compared to Ryan?
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10-11-2012, 22:01
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Martha ....
Martha ...
Martha! ...
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10-11-2012, 22:09
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#96
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As a financial guy, there is one thing that has ticked me off in debate #1 and #2. Why do Romney/Ryan let the other side get away with the phrase "let Detroit go bankrupt" without clarification.
I understand the term bankrupt means bad things to the common man. However, at the mega-corporation level, the only significant difference between a corporate bankruptcy filing and a government bailout is ...under organized bankruptcy, unions lose power. Otherwise, the business reorganized its finanance, amend debt covenants, restructures management and sheds some debt. The real losers are the common stockholders, bondholders and the banks ...aka rich people with the dems hate.
A simple compare/contrast could further expose Obama/Biden for the double-talking hypocrits that they are.
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10-11-2012, 22:17
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SortaHeuristic
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"Live free or die!" Why specify a choice? For you, they are exactly the same thing.
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10-11-2012, 22:20
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Originally Posted by aplcr0331
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Now we just need some cartoons.
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10-11-2012, 22:27
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#99
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The VP debate needs to be about VP issues and what they would do as VP.
What it looked like was two girls arguing about who's boyfriend is better.
It is a proven fact that the VP has little to do with the election. Well, the McCain run could upset that fact but I don't think this has that factor.
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10-11-2012, 22:36
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#100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian Moone
As a financial guy, there is one thing that has ticked me off in debate #1 and #2. Why do Romney/Ryan let the other side get away with the phrase "let Detroit go bankrupt" without clarification.
I understand the term bankrupt means bad things to the common man. However, at the mega-corporation level, the only significant difference between a corporate bankruptcy filing and a government bailout is ...under organized bankruptcy, unions lose power. Otherwise, the business reorganized its finanance, amend debt covenants, restructures management and sheds some debt. The real losers are the common stockholders, bondholders and the banks ...aka rich people with the dems hate.
A simple compare/contrast could further expose Obama/Biden for the double-talking hypocrits that they are.
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That is a good point. The who idea behind the GM bailouts was to save the Unions. So what if GM did go bankrupt? The company failed. Let the winners win and the failures fail. Same with the banks. All the government does with bailouts is perlong the problem and hurts us all in the long run.
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