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Old 10-11-2012, 20:33   #221
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Disturbing link on how service and OC doesn't mean a damn thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8-yc....1.f_UZzK-izkQ
I have seen this one before, and it still gives me the creeps.

When the killer pulled the Carbine out, I kept thinking "shoot him! shoot him!" But I wasn't there facing a whackjob who was brandishing an effective rifle (that shoots a .308 110g @ 1990fps.)

I suspect that the ingrained instinct against killing other people may have had a role in the end of this man's life.

I note that the cop 1) was sacred to the point of terror, but didn't panic; and 2) died "with his boots on."
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Old 10-11-2012, 21:17   #222
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Disturbing link on how service and OC doesn't mean a damn thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8-yc....1.f_UZzK-izkQ
You're really comparing a Marine who never reached or pulled his pistol and was cooperative, with another service member who pulled a M-1 Carbine out of his truck and engaged an officer?

Good comparison.
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Old 10-11-2012, 22:43   #223
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You're really comparing a Marine who never reached or pulled his pistol and was cooperative with, another service member who pulled a M-1 Carbine out of his truck and engaged an officer?

Good comparison.
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Old 10-11-2012, 23:19   #224
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Almost 4 minutes in, and he is just doing his job. 6 min and still nothing. Seems like a great guy. Min 9, activist your very professional...

Checked the ar gave it back, for his safety asked them not to load it. Wow this cops a great additions to Law Enforcement! Even kept to his word and showed him his rifle!


PS before you say I'm hating I open carry alot.
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When will these cops ever learn? I mean, I just don't understand.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen

EDIT: No, I'm not serious. The cop did a great job.

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Old 10-11-2012, 23:40   #225
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Almost 4 minutes in, and he is just doing his job. 6 min and still nothing. Seems like a great guy. Min 9, activist your very professional...

Checked the ar gave it back, for his safety asked them not to load it. Wow this cops a great additions to Law Enforcement! Even kept to his word and showed him his rifle!


PS before you say I'm hating I open carry alot.
Ummmmm, yeaaaah. Take another look at my opening post, which you quoted. It has this line in it...


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Old 10-12-2012, 00:02   #226
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You're really comparing a Marine who never reached or pulled his pistol and was cooperative, with another service member who pulled a M-1 Carbine out of his truck and engaged an officer?

Good comparison.
His point is very simple: Being in the armed services is not a relevant fact; it is just a "heartstrings" puller. It wouldn't matter if Mother Teresa had been on that motorcycle.
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Old 10-12-2012, 15:43   #227
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You're really comparing a Marine who never reached or pulled his pistol and was cooperative, with another service member who pulled a M-1 Carbine out of his truck and engaged an officer?

Good comparison.
Yup. I am saying, it doesn't matter who they are. Anyone OCing is a potential danger, and a Terry stop is not out of the question. People don't staple their Cariculum Vitae stapled to their foreheads walking around.
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Old 10-12-2012, 16:29   #228
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Except for the guy wasn't open carrying the M-1 Carbine. It was in his truck and he pulled it out of the truck after he was stopped.

By that reasoning everyone is subject to a Terry Stop because hell in Texas there's a good chance they have a concealed weapon under their shirt.
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Old 10-12-2012, 16:39   #229
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Except for the guy wasn't open carrying the M-1 Carbine. It was in his truck and he pulled it out of the truck after he was stopped.

By that reasoning everyone is subject to a Terry Stop because hell in Texas there's a good chance they have a concealed weapon under their shirt.
Its all in how you are able to articulate your actions. He was openly carrying the weapon in his vehicle, loaded and ready to go.

A kid with a .45 can kill you just as dead. When there is a weapon in play, it is worth taking notice and investigating as necessary.

I remember stopping a vehicle hauling butt out of a known smuggling area with lights out. In the end it ended up being the ranch hand screwing around. But, he had a 12 gauge shotgun on the seat.

I told my partner rather loudly, "Hey, that's a nice shotgun." That way he knew it was there as well.

The guy was clean and we sent him on his way.

Had he been smuggling drugs with that shotgun, it would haven gotten really ugly real fast.

The point? When there are guns in play an abundance of caution is not only prudent, but necessary.

You can do libertarian gymnastics all day long, but when it is your life on the line, I suspect you might look at things a tad bit differently.
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Old 10-12-2012, 17:16   #230
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Except for the guy wasn't open carrying the M-1 Carbine. It was in his truck and he pulled it out of the truck after he was stopped.
It seems that you are doing this deliberately. His point is not hard to understand: someone being a veteran doesn't mean a thing in these situations.

There are many people who have worn the uniform -- some with distinction -- who turned out to be horrible people. Case in point, the man in the video with the M1 Carbine.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:27   #231
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That is one cool cop and a consummate professional IMO. The open carry activists (read: agitators) are some of the biggest buffoons on the planet..still working from my opinion.
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Old 10-13-2012, 17:03   #232
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Christ on a cracker! I go away and this thread is still bubbling?

I had better get the popper warned up . . .
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Old 10-13-2012, 17:45   #233
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God bless that officer for being so patient with those idiots.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:20   #234
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God bless that officer for being so patient with those idiots.
Amen to that.
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Old 12-01-2012, 16:17   #235
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Old 12-01-2012, 17:02   #236
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I think the cop did his job just fine.
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