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Old 10-09-2012, 08:49   #1
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Shooting range liability concerns and armed range masters.

Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:56   #2
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Why not? It is a range for goodness sake.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:01   #3
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Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?
Why not? Unless this is a Golf Driving range I can't imagine why the range masters should be the only ones unarmed.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:08   #4
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If they are vetted, then hell yes.

What if some dude comes in and starts a rampage? Boom, headshot.
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I also don't get your question. What exactly is your concern? All the gunshops, liquor stores and pawnshops I go to everyone is armed.


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Old 10-09-2012, 09:25   #6
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If you're referring to GRPC in Jacksonville, I've spoken to several of the Range Officers there. They've been threatened by ne'er-do-wells on numerous occasions while attempting to enforce the rules of the range.

Why should the ROs be the only ones who are unarmed at a shooting range?
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:30   #7
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Couldn't care less if they carry. I do.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:35   #8
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Working at a place where everyone is armed except the guy in charge seems a little goofy to me.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:43   #9
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Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?
If I worked on a range (and when I do) I am always armed, and I know how many steps it is to a powerful long gun + ammo (even if the long gun is unloaded).

ESPECIALLY range officers, should be armed.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:16   #10
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This isn't really a serious question is it?
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:26   #11
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It's certainly one of the oddest questions I've seen posted on here.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:33   #12
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It's certainly one of the oddest questions I've seen posted on here.
Im gonna say top 3.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:36   #13
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Of course they should.

Maybe there's a follow up point. If so please make it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:42   #14
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Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?
If they don't carry, I won't shoot there............ DOC
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:47   #15
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Couldn't care less if they carry. I do.
I get your point, but I WANT them to carry.

I wonder if the OP is looking at insurance for ranges and whether or not the insurance companies want the RO to be unarmed.

OP?
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:06   #16
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None of the ranges I frequent have armed personnel. Never really thought about it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:16   #17
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Why not? It is a range for goodness sake.
That's what I was thinking. A range master might not care, but having a rule that the guy in charge is the only unarmed person on he range doesn't even begin to make sense.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:21   #18
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For everyone that thinks the answer is obvious try the NSSF web page and the NRA and see if there are any risk management guidelines on the issue. If you have insurance on the range does your insurer know if rangemasters are armed, and are you covered if a shooting goes wrong. You know, NY cop shoots bad guy, hits multiple bystanders. Or, do you have unarmed rangemasters, and then have bad guy go on a rampage.

Yes, this is a risk management question.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:22   #19
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Working at a place where everyone is armed except the guy in charge seems a little goofy to me.
Very true, and I like your wording.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:12   #20
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My insurance does not require that I, or anyone else working at my range, be unarmed.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:25   #21
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I know that at the range I worked at no one was allowed to open carry. We weren't officially allowed to concealed carry, but the majority of the RA's did. We had our share of crazies, drunks, and stupid people. If you're responsible for a range, the safety on the range, and the range's guns, why wouldn't you carry? I had guns pointed at me both unintentionally and intentionally more times than I can count. I would never work at a range that insisted that I be unarmed.
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:27   #22
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At my public range some are armed and some not..But if concealed would I really know?
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:25   #23
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Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?
No. They are not there to play. They are there to do the job of running the range. As to the idea they might need to shoot someone... bull.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:29   #24
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My insurance does not require that I, or anyone else working at my range, be unarmed.
Does your insurance know that your employees are armed, and does it have any requirements re training of employees to make sure they are qualified.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:53   #25
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Even if the rules said I couldn't be armed as a range officer I would anyway or leave the club with such a silly rule. Just hide a small pistol.

I know some clubs have an all out ban on guns unless you are on the range due to serving alcohol, and you can't be on a range if you have consumed alcohol.

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