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10-09-2012, 15:46
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#176
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Drop those nuts
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Originally Posted by Jonesee
2 Points:
I have hunted all my life and have never seen a reason to carry a handgun in the woods or back country. Sure sign of someone who is uncomfortable there or just trying to play make believe.
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I take it you only hunt for rabbits and mice, and in places where nothing bigger even lives there?
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10-09-2012, 16:01
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#177
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Classic example of why the anti gunners will probably win in the end; because they can hang each little faction one at a time. First the machine gun guys, then the assault rifle guys, then the CCH guys, then the hunters, then the guys who carry pocket knives.
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10-09-2012, 16:11
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#178
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Location: Upstate NY, USA
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Originally Posted by Arc Angel
My position on what gun to use is the same for hunting as it is for self-defense: Just shoot straight, and use enough gun!  |
I like that 
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10-09-2012, 16:36
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#179
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Location: ohio
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i've carried a pistol duck hunting.....not the place you think about running into a "wild" animal.....but, when you are by yourself.....know one ever knows what can happen......i've seen "shady" people in the parking area's.....some guy's even get robbed fishing in spot's going back to their cars....west branch resv. is one place..... 
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10-09-2012, 17:59
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#180
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I realize not everyone has smart phones, this is a good app to buy....CCW Controls
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10-09-2012, 18:08
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#181
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Update: My buddy made bond yesterday, and got back home last night. He has to go back to Ohio next week for the arraignment, and the following week to handle the case. He has a local attorney, and it sounds like things will work out OK for him. As for the questions about why he didn't have a CC permit, he had planned to do it for months, but just never had the time to complete the course. I imagine it will be high on his priority list now.
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10-09-2012, 18:38
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#182
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STOP RESISTING!
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Originally Posted by fowl intent
Update: My buddy made bond yesterday, and got back home last night. He has to go back to Ohio next week for the arraignment, and the following week to handle the case. He has a local attorney, and it sounds like things will work out OK for him. As for the questions about why he didn't have a CC permit, he had planned to do it for months, but just never had the time to complete the course. I imagine it will be high on his priority list now.
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What were his charges?
CCW or improper handling?
Sent from my PKE meter.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheriff733
Did he have a warrant to use that taser?
From what I've learned in the Boston bombing threads, you must always have a warrant. For anything.
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10-09-2012, 19:03
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#183
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Here in Colorado one can carry their firearm loaded in the car with no permit, because the person's vehicle is considered to be a part of their domicile. Lucky us
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10-09-2012, 19:05
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#184
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You may want to explain to him that breaking laws can cause him legal trouble. Use little words if you have to.
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For too long people have said "screw NY, IL, etc" or "that'll never happen here." Yes, it will eventually. If we dont start standing up together now, it will never stop.-ilgunguygt
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10-09-2012, 19:15
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#185
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THE BRIGADE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank4570
You may want to explain to him that breaking laws can cause him legal trouble. Use little words if you have to.
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do you know how many laws are broken daily that you dont know of ? we all break laws daily .
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10-09-2012, 19:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank4570
You may want to explain to him that breaking laws can cause him legal trouble. Use little words if you have to.
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You may want to have someone explain to you what it is to be an American.
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10-09-2012, 19:28
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Feral human
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_plinking
You may want to have someone explain to you what it is to be an American.
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Carrying a concealed handgun across state lines when you are ignorant of the laws? That's just asking for it.
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For too long people have said "screw NY, IL, etc" or "that'll never happen here." Yes, it will eventually. If we dont start standing up together now, it will never stop.-ilgunguygt
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10-09-2012, 19:39
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#188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonesee
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I have hunted all my life and have never seen a reason to carry a handgun in the woods or back country. Sure sign of someone who is uncomfortable there or just trying to play make believe.
And. When I carry in a car, the gun is unloaded and packed in a case.
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You carry a handgun unloaded and locked in a case when you travel? Hope you never need it.
I try not to be negative or ugly to people, but your entire reply is ate up with it.
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10-09-2012, 19:55
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#189
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Tewwowist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RonS
Classic example of why the anti gunners will probably win in the end; because they can hang each little faction one at a time. First the machine gun guys, then the assault rifle guys, then the CCH guys, then the hunters, then the guys who carry pocket knives.
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What makes it all the more disappointing is the abundance of "pro-gun" types on here who are so eager to blame the guy arrested for not knowing the law or having a permit.
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10-09-2012, 20:05
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#190
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Location: East Kentucky
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonesee
2 Points:
I have hunted all my life and have never seen a reason to carry a handgun in the woods or back country. Sure sign of someone who is uncomfortable there or just trying to play make believe.
And. When I carry in a car, the gun is unloaded and packed in a case.
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This one really takes the cake... I was gonna say something but I think the other posters have covered it!!!
I think gun owners, whether military arms collectors, sportsmen, or cowboy action, should unify before all of us have to find another hobby!
I really hope this guy is shown some leneancy.
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10-09-2012, 20:07
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#191
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Location: East Kentucky
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Just to be clear, had this guy possessed a ccw permit, he could've had the gun loaded & concealed and been okay under OH law?
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10-09-2012, 20:20
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#192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skippz
Just to be clear, had this guy possessed a ccw permit, he could've had the gun loaded & concealed and been okay under OH law?
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so long as NC & OH have reciprocity, yes he wold have been fine. He could have had 10 loaded pistols and been fine.
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10-09-2012, 21:12
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#193
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fowl intent
Update: My buddy made bond yesterday, and got back home last night. He has to go back to Ohio next week for the arraignment, and the following week to handle the case. He has a local attorney, and it sounds like things will work out OK for him. As for the questions about why he didn't have a CC permit, he had planned to do it for months, but just never had the time to complete the course. I imagine it will be high on his priority list now.
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If he still has the option after this.
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10-09-2012, 23:16
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#194
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Upgrayedd
OH and NC have reciprocity. I know because I'm from OH and went on vacation in western NC last month. The laws are stupid but your buddy should have his permit if he's going to carry.
I'm not sure you can call this a nightmare. Try to look at it from the officer's point of view. You have to be an idiot to try speeding in OH. Loaded handgun + no permit = felony around here.
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There's no question, you speed on Ohio freeways at your peril.
Ohio isn't Michigan - Ohio's top speed would get you run over in MI.
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10-09-2012, 23:21
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#195
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank4570
It's kind of silly to go to an entirely different state while carrying a gun without researching the laws.
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True, true.
We don't have the whole story here. Was it a local cop, Highway Patrol, etc ?
How did the cop know he had the gun? It's not their general rule to search your car.
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10-09-2012, 23:38
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#196
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Pharaoh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smithers
True, true.
We don't have the whole story here. Was it a local cop, Highway Patrol, etc ?
How did the cop know he had the gun? It's not their general rule to search your car.
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Reading is one of those life skills that sometimes helps add information and puts things in context.
POST #1!!
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Originally Posted by fowl intent
Well, he got stopped for speeding, and I'm not sure how or why this came up, but he volunteered that he had a handgun in the car.
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10-09-2012, 23:41
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#197
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Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uptomyneck
IMO, the only POS in this whole scenario is the cop who arrested the OP's friend. Ruined a man's life for what? Admitting he had a big, scary gun. The pig should be ashamed of himself. But of course we know he won't. He generated revenue so it's all good.
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The "pig" ?
What, are you twelve ?
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10-09-2012, 23:53
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Pharaoh
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
What makes it all the more disappointing is the abundance of "pro-gun" types on here who are so eager to blame the guy arrested for not knowing the law or having a permit.
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I think you missed the most obvious point. The officer went home safe that night. 
Basically, most everyone here is willing to surrender someone elses rights / life to the govt. They know for sure they are not one of the bad guys and it wont happen to them....
Wait...I think I saw a writing somewhere before about this topic...let me think about it....it may come to me...
Its coming to me...its was something written by Martin Niemöller...
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10-10-2012, 00:00
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#199
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fowl intent
Update: My buddy made bond yesterday, and got back home last night. He has to go back to Ohio next week for the arraignment, and the following week to handle the case. He has a local attorney, and it sounds like things will work out OK for him. As for the questions about why he didn't have a CC permit, he had planned to do it for months, but just never had the time to complete the course. I imagine it will be high on his priority list now.
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If he is convicted of a felony involving a firearm, he can kiss that goodbye.
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10-10-2012, 00:06
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#200
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
What makes it all the more disappointing is the abundance of "pro-gun" types on here who are so eager to blame the guy arrested for not knowing the law or having a permit.
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To me, it just seems like common sense. Having a loaded weapon in your car isn't the same thing as a missing mudflap.
The laws for transporting firearms between (within) states are pretty easy to find.
Would most posters here agree that we should be able to have most weapons anytime? I think so.
Unfortunately, that's not the way it is.
We have to live in the actual world , not what we think is ideal or "right" , even though it may well be.
Lecture over.
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