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Old 10-08-2012, 14:23   #26
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I'm against medication of any kind unless one's very, very sick. And yes, I do believe MDs today over-prescribe everything.

Unfortunately, not every child is meant to survive to adulthood. Darwin's theory of Survival of the Fittest should not be interfered with.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:23   #27
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The title is misleading. I was in the second grade when the U.S. started vaccinating for Polio. A lot of people my age grew up with braces on their legs so they could walk and had corrective to make both of their legs the same length. The afflicted limb was always smaller and weaker than the other one. There were people who spent most of their childhood and all their adult lives in iron lungs. Due to the vaccinations, you don't see that any more. We may have overdone it, but in general, vaccinations are a good thing.
There are risks in every medical procedure, but I agree that vaccinations are a pretty good bet overall.

I remember polio kids, and getting my sugar cube when I was young, and I am glad I did.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:23   #28
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No, no, no... Vaccinations caused the sudden increase in "moon walking" in the U.S.

I would say it was a sudden influx of nazi rocket scientists....but ok. Vaccinations it is.

...and Freemasons, those damned, dirty Freemasons. It is always their fault.... and some Jew, somewhere, doing his Jewy Jewish things!
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:26   #29
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I'm against medication of any kind unless one's very, very sick. And yes, I do believe MDs today over-prescribe everything.

Unfortunately, not every child is meant to survive to adulthood. Darwin's theory of Survival of the Fittest should not be interfered with.
Yeah, what could those people possibly do for the sake of all man kind...

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Old 10-08-2012, 14:27   #30
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That is not a "study" that is a sales pitch.

Pure BS.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:33   #31
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It is always their fault.... and some Jew, somewhere, doing his Jewy Jewish things!
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:43   #32
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The US is the world leader in autism by a staggering large margin.

We are also the world leader in mandatory vaccines.

You do the math.


Soooooo, tonight's "Google-Fu" homework exercise for you is to research the logical fallacy of Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.

Be sure to have a report ready for class tomorrow morning.

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Old 10-08-2012, 14:44   #33
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The US is the world leader in autism by a staggering large margin.

We are also the world leader in mandatory vaccines.

You do the math.
"The US is the world leader in autism by a staggering large margin.

We are also the world leader in obesity.

Therefore, being fat causes autism."

You can replace "obesity" with a number of other terms: car ownership, income levels, number of Xboxes, whatever you want.

You know what all of those things have in common with vaccines? None of them have any statistical correlation with autism.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:45   #34
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Now that is some serious comedic genius right there.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:48   #35
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Vaccines are great if they are voluntary. But mandatory vaccines are tyranny. And they kill.
You think the eradication of smallpox through mandatory vaccinations was a bad thing? I'm quite happy my children and grandchildren don't have to face that scourge. Guess that makes me a socialists.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:49   #36
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:55   #37
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This thread has potential. Just need a few more GNG nutbaggers to show up...
Agree, should be good entertainment in case MNF is a blowout tonight.
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Old 10-08-2012, 15:15   #38
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It's out there for those willing to open their minds to truth.


In other words, you've got nothing.
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Old 10-08-2012, 15:18   #39
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If vaccines are so safe, why do the drug companies demand and get total indemnity from the Nanny state from any and all side effects of the mandated vaccines?
Because when the government mandated vaccines it also assumed liability for them.

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/index.html


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Old 10-08-2012, 15:27   #40
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I was having a rough day. Then I read the OP and became sad. Now I can't stop laughing from the responses.

The word "study" actually means something in the scientific community.
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Old 10-08-2012, 15:49   #41
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You guys who doubt the OP's conclusion must not realize that vaccines are part of a grand conspiracy. I'm glad the interwebs are here to allow those who know the truth out from under their rocks and give them some exposure. To enlighten us sheeple....

*cough*
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Old 10-08-2012, 15:52   #42
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This stuff comes up every month...two reasons:

-people want to believe there's a conspiracy
-people don't want to be told what to do

Risk vs. Reward...do the math.
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Old 10-08-2012, 15:58   #43
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Old 10-08-2012, 16:01   #44
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The US is the world leader in autism by a staggering large margin.

We are also the world leader in mandatory vaccines.

You do the math.
That's because parents are idiots and don't do any research before pumping their kids full of "safe" vaccines.
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Old 10-08-2012, 16:10   #45
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Yeah, what could those people possibly do for the sake of all man kind...

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Old 10-08-2012, 16:10   #46
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The US is the world leader in autism by a staggering large margin.

We are also the world leader in mandatory vaccines.

You do the math.
The US is the leader in nuclear aircraft carriers per capita.

We are also the world leader in NFL players injured on Sundays.

YOU do the math.

hint: correlation does not necessarily indicate causation.
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Old 10-08-2012, 16:37   #47
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The majority of violent crimes in America are committed within hours after consuming bread, for heaven's sake, ban bread, the life you save may be your own.

I wonder how many people fall for that drivel? America has so many Autistic children because there are codes for it that doctors can use to bill insurance companies. Even the literature from support groups credits improved diagnostics for the huge increase in reported cases.
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Old 10-08-2012, 16:55   #48
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Interesting thread.

In almost every other thread that touches on government intervention and "mandating" things, everyone here, including many in this thread rises up, thumps their chests, and shouts about tyranny and the gov't screwing up perfectly good programs, they should keep their nose out of the business of private citizens, etc. But when it comes to vaccines, suddenly it's a good thing.

Just did a 30-second google search, and came up with two parents that tried to refuse vaccinating their kids, and were told to appear in court and either subject their children to on-the-spot, state-mandated vaccines of up to 17 doses, or face imprisonment. Also, if they ignored the court's demand, they would also be subject to a $50 fine for each day their child was “out of compliance” or up to 10 days in jail.

So, which is it? Is government intervention a good thing or not?
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Old 10-08-2012, 16:55   #49
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And thank YOU for being perfect, all the time, every time. Go forth and reproduce. We need more of you.

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Old 10-08-2012, 16:55   #50
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By the OPs logic, somehow 3rd world countries would have a staggering population of healthy people. Yet...that's not the case. Hmmm.

I thought everything that coorelated was true?
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