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10-08-2012, 10:19
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Bamboozled
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Originally Posted by jeepinbandit
Different states different laws.
In Texas I don't have to provide ID unless I'm operating a motor vehicle or the officer believes I'm lying about my identity during a street contact. All I have to give them in that case is my name.
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You might want to re-read Chapter 38 of the Penal Code.......
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10-08-2012, 10:27
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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Yeah, failure to ID in texas is an arrestable misdemeanor. Not at good thing to decide not to do. The state issued you an ID, it is technically the property of the state. They can revoke it. You may have paid for the ID, but that is essentially a tax for the privelege of having that ID. If I get pulled over by a local, I don't argue about my ID.
I have done traffic stops, I have done felony traffic stops. I know exactly what he is thinking if I am stopped. The trouble is he can't figure out if I am a con or an LEO, because the wheels are canted away from the traffic flow, the window is down, the radio is off, and both hands are visible on the wheel. I don't get offended with having a flashlight in the driver's mirror either. I have used that trick many a time to keep someone from seeing well enough to take a good shot at me if that was their intention.
More often than not, if you are polite, professional, respectful, and responsive you won't have a problem if pulled over and aske for ID.
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10-08-2012, 10:39
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38.02
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A person commits an offense if he intenionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information
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Doesn't say I have to provide ID just says I have to provide them with name, dob and address if LAWFULLY arrested.
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10-08-2012, 10:45
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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Originally Posted by jeepinbandit
38.02
Doesn't say I have to provide ID just says I have to provide them with name, dob and address if LAWFULLY arrested.
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Which can change based on county or municipal code. Either way you look at it, not a smart play.
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10-08-2012, 10:52
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I'd generally agree and don't have an issue providing my ID but I'm not everyone and some folks may not want to provide a little state issued card that identifies them. I think that's been tried a few times throughout history.
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10-08-2012, 11:37
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VIVA MEXICO !!!
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Thirteen minutes of a big can of whoop-ass from that cop to the gay trio of attention whores. Loved it.
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10-08-2012, 12:06
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Pretty Ladies!
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It's been over 24 hours since the OP posted and ran and now the thread is sucking in more trolls.
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10-08-2012, 12:32
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Originally Posted by TXCOPPER
^^^this^^^
Frizz comes on and starts these threads to stir the pot. Then after getting the reactions he wants, he posts something about how he respects what we do, and how dangerous our jobs are.
And if this officer is unprofessional, then I'd hate to see the alternative.
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Wrong. Other than my initial two screwup threads, where have I done this? Show your work.
I'll use this post to explain since the sarcasm about the OC dbag with an extraordinarily professional cop wasn't clear to some.
There is another OC vs. cop vid that ends with the cop making the OCs look like double-dbags and, and the end of his every reply repeats "any questions, comments, or concerns?"
The cop in the vid I found was 100% cool; his goat isn't gettable.
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10-08-2012, 12:37
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Originally Posted by Hack
I looked at the video. To me it looks like younguns going out for attention seeking. They got their attention from a professional who was being professional. Admittedly I have seen worse on YouTube.
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But have you seen a more professional response to an OC cameraman.
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10-08-2012, 12:42
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Originally Posted by Dukeboy01
What I saw was two civil libertardian d- bags being attention whores and the cop doing his best to to his job without aggravating the situation. What exactly was "unprofessional" in the video, frizz? Give us a time stamp or some specific quotes. Don't just post and run.
I stand by my original judgement of you in the first Coptalk thread you posted. You're a "concern troll." You're slicker and more low key than most of our trolls, but a troll all the same.
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There was nothing uncool, let alone unprofessional by the cop here.
You can stand wherever you want.
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10-08-2012, 12:43
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Originally Posted by SGT HATRED
I'm thinking the OP's post was sarcasm. The police officer in the video was quite professional. What I don't understand is why the OCers didn't walk away when the cop gave them that option multiple times...
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We have a winner!
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10-08-2012, 12:48
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Originally Posted by Dukeboy01
It's been over 24 hours since the OP posted and ran and now the thread is sucking in more trolls.
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I've been sick over the past week or two, so what the hell am I supposed to do? Throw up on the ****ing keyboard?
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10-08-2012, 12:54
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Originally Posted by Bren
I didn't watch the whole thing to know he had an unloaded gun. I was talking about how easy it would be to rob him and make him run away crying, if he was carrying a loaded rifle with a round chambered.
By the way, getting abck to the original post theme:
That cop may have acted professional but he looked like crap, from what I must guess is a department run by hippes.
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You know good and well that hippie cop shops don't use guns. They use joint slingers to spread the love.
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10-08-2012, 13:07
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Originally Posted by frizz
I've been sick over the past week or two, so what the hell am I supposed to do? Throw up on the ****ing keyboard?
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I betting the consensus here would be that's exactly what you did when you clicked on the Submit New Thread button.
Edited to add, glad you're feeling better...
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10-08-2012, 13:14
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Originally Posted by frizz
I'll use this post to explain since the sarcasm about the OC dbag with an extraordinarily professional cop wasn't clear to some.
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To some? Frizz based on your start around here, I believe just about everyone, except SGT HATRED, believed you to be serious.
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Originally Posted by frizz
There is another OC vs. cop vid that ends with the cop making the OCs look like double-dbags and, and the end of his every reply repeats "any questions, comments, or concerns?"
The cop in the vid I found was 100% cool; his goat isn't gettable.
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From now on, how about just stating your intent up front instead of leaving it up to the readers to interpret.
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10-08-2012, 13:44
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Originally Posted by RussP
To some? Frizz based on your start around here, I believe just about everyone, except SGT HATRED, believed you to be serious.From now on, how about just stating your intent up front instead of leaving it up to the readers to interpret.
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Just about everyone *who responded* that is. There is a difference.
I thought that the irony would be obvious. Nyquil is not a boon for estimation. Oh well.
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10-08-2012, 14:05
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Originally Posted by frizz
Just about everyone *who responded* that is. There is a difference.
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So, you are saying that all the other GT members, all 171,831 of them, who did not post in the thread understood your sarcasm...
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Originally Posted by frizz
I thought that the irony would be obvious. Nyquil is not a boon for estimation. Oh well.
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Yes, you should not post under the influence...
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10-08-2012, 14:22
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It makes you wonder where the parents of those kids are.
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10-08-2012, 14:30
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STOP RESISTING!
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Originally Posted by Beware Owner
It makes you wonder where the parents of those kids are.
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Hiding from them.
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10-08-2012, 14:40
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Originally Posted by RussP
So, you are saying that all the other GT members, all 171,831 of them, who did not post in the thread understood your sarcasm
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No, the ones who read thread. I didn't mean everyone in the world.
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10-08-2012, 14:42
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Originally Posted by frizz
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They wanted attention. They got attention. Why so cross? It's not like they were going to stop before they got what they wanted, right?
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10-08-2012, 14:42
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Originally Posted by Ohio Copper
Hiding from them.
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Not a bad idea, all things considered.
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10-08-2012, 14:45
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I used to think that open carry was OK, but after seeing these videos with attention seeking, juvenile acting, know it alls I'm convinced that open carry is not such a good idea. All they do is spout off about their rights, but what about other peoples rights? What about the rights of the people that called in? What about the policemans rights?
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10-08-2012, 14:48
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Originally Posted by oldman11
I used to think that open carry was OK, but after seeing these videos with attention seeking, juvenile acting, know it alls I'm convinced that open carry is not such a good idea. All they do is spout off about their rights, but what about other peoples rights? What about the rights of the people that called in? What about the policemans rights?
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If the Brady people were smart, this is exactly what they would be doing.
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10-08-2012, 14:53
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NOT a victim.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldman11
I used to think that open carry was OK, but after seeing these videos with attention seeking, juvenile acting, know it alls I'm convinced that open carry is not such a good idea. All they do is spout off about their rights, but what about other peoples rights? What about the rights of the people that called in? What about the policemans rights?
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Just curious, honestly, what other people's and policeman's rights?
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