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Old 10-07-2012, 12:22   #26
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I have been retired for a while

but what happened to the misdemeanor(up to a year in jail)

of failure to identify>
No such statute in Oregon. In a vehicle, someone can be charged with a misdemeanor, but DA's have said they will not accept it on it's own, it must be in combination with another charge.
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:23   #27
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Post this on world star hip hop... then all the gang bangers that watch YouTube would know these idiots walk around with unloaded guns.
I didn't watch the whole thing to know he had an unloaded gun. I was talking about how easy it would be to rob him and make him run away crying, if he was carrying a loaded rifle with a round chambered.

By the way, getting abck to the original post theme:

That cop may have acted professional but he looked like crap, from what I must guess is a department run by hippes. Are there really places where officers in cars wear shorts, no socks, and then throw a tactical vest over the top in case they don't already look like low-rent mall security?

I can only hope he was a bicycle cop temporarily in the car.
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Old 10-07-2012, 13:05   #28
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I remember seeing that kind of thing in places. Our recreation staff have that option.

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Old 10-07-2012, 14:00   #29
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What I saw was two civil libertardian d- bags being attention whores and the cop doing his best to to his job without aggravating the situation. What exactly was "unprofessional" in the video, frizz? Give us a time stamp or some specific quotes. Don't just post and run.

I stand by my original judgement of you in the first Coptalk thread you posted. You're a "concern troll." You're slicker and more low key than most of our trolls, but a troll all the same.
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Frizz comes on and starts these threads to stir the pot. Then after getting the reactions he wants, he posts something about how he respects what we do, and how dangerous our jobs are.

And if this officer is unprofessional, then I'd hate to see the alternative.


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Old 10-07-2012, 14:35   #30
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Wow misleading title lol..should be attention seeking morons and some good cops lol.
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Old 10-07-2012, 15:51   #31
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Three morons escort an AR rifle looking for attention and get it. The end.
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Old 10-07-2012, 16:34   #32
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Wow misleading title lol..should be attention seeking morons and some good cops lol.
He may be trying to TBO the title.....
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Old 10-07-2012, 17:11   #33
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He may be trying to TBO the title.....
If he was, then he sucks at it. His comment in his first post belies that theory anyway.

As it is, it's been over 12 hours since his original post and he has yet to come back to answer any of the questions put to him.

Textbook trolling.
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Old 10-07-2012, 17:16   #34
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As it is, it's been over 12 hours since his original post and he has yet to come back to answer any of the questions put to him.
To keep things in perspective, he has not logged in again since that post.
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Old 10-07-2012, 17:21   #35
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I'm not sure what the OP was going with this. Your thread title does NOT make any sense. This guy is an idiot for OC'ing his AR for the sole purpose of negative interaction with LEO's. He must have been very disappointed to meet a professional officer that day. I dislike these videotaping clowns who get off trying to get 5 minutes of attention by posting a video on YouTube.
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Another lose, lose thread here. I'm not a big OC fan, but you can't say that here without getting slammed by the anti-leo's and called a a traitor.
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Until he logs back in I'm going to believe he was being waggish.
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Another lose, lose thread here. I'm not a big OC fan, but you can't say that here without getting slammed by the anti-leo's and called a a traitor.
Yeah, don't respond to people who trash talk you professionally. I did. It got me banned from GTRI.
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Old 10-07-2012, 19:54   #40
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I didn't watch the whole thing to know he had an unloaded gun. I was talking about how easy it would be to rob him and make him run away crying, if he was carrying a loaded rifle with a round chambered.

By the way, getting abck to the original post theme:

That cop may have acted professional but he looked like crap, from what I must guess is a department run by hippes. Are there really places where officers in cars wear shorts, no socks, and then throw a tactical vest over the top in case they don't already look like low-rent mall security?

I can only hope he was a bicycle cop temporarily in the car.
Or maybe he works for a department that cares more about law enforcement than spit shined shoes and leather gear with a mirrored gloss?
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Old 10-07-2012, 20:42   #41
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What I don't understand is why the OCers didn't walk away when the cop gave them that option multiple times...
Because these morons were not getting the reaction from the officer they wanted. They were hoping that the officer that pulled up was going to give them something Youtube worthy because of unprofessionalism.

They got what they wanted (attention) and werent going to walk away from the chance to keep getting it.
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Old 10-08-2012, 00:11   #42
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Or maybe he works for a department that cares more about law enforcement than spit shined shoes and leather gear with a mirrored gloss?
Thank you. He wasn't at a funeral he was on patrol. The uniform doesn't make the cop.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:24   #43
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I wonder if I bought Ofc. Jim lunch if he would let me shoot his full-auto AR15?
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:40   #44
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Or maybe he works for a department that cares more about law enforcement than spit shined shoes and leather gear with a mirrored gloss?
Not understanding why that is actually important - more in law enforcement than just about anywhere - is exactly why I siuggested "a department run by hippies."

I expect many on this forum not to get it, but there is a reason police wear uniforms and a reason the uniforms look like they do. Undercutting that makes it useless. It's a LOT more than "identification."

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Thank you. He wasn't at a funeral he was on patrol. The uniform doesn't make the cop.
Again, if you were a cop you would, or at least should, udnerstand that appearance is a tool. Obviously, the guy in the video didn't, or else he thought he was supposed to "appear like a tool."

Most use of force continuums start with "officer presence" and "officer presence" means a lot more than just being present - it also means an appearance they conveys authority and commands respect. You could be identified as a cop with a T-shirt that says "police" - the badge and all the crap you pin on means a lot more than that. Diminishing that with casual clothes is reducing a tool at the start point of the force continuum - no different than downgrading from a .45 to a .380, but at a much more basic and often-used point in the continuum.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:28   #45
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Not understanding why that is actually important - more in law enforcement than just about anywhere - is exactly why I siuggested "a department run by hippies."

I expect many on this forum not to get it, but there is a reason police wear uniforms and a reason the uniforms look like they do. Undercutting that makes it useless. It's a LOT more than "identification."



Again, if you were a cop you would, or at least should, udnerstand that appearance is a tool. Obviously, the guy in the video didn't, or else he thought he was supposed to "appear like a tool."

Most use of force continuums start with "officer presence" and "officer presence" means a lot more than just being present - it also means an appearance they conveys authority and commands respect. You could be identified as a cop with a T-shirt that says "police" - the badge and all the crap you pin on means a lot more than that. Diminishing that with casual clothes is reducing a tool at the start point of the force continuum - no different than downgrading from a .45 to a .380, but at a much more basic and often-used point in the continuum.
In the academy, my instructors cited a "study" (I guess you could call it that), in which X-amount of cop killers were interviewed, and asked why they chose to carry out their intentions on those officers when LE contact was made. One of the most common answers given was the cop's appearance, ie how squared away the officer appeared, and how they carried themselves.

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Yeah we all learned about that study, but it fails in that the way a cop carries himself has nothing to do with whether they're wearing a high gloss belt/boots and starched trooper uniform or a "soft uniform".

You can look like a piece of **** in either or a professional who won't **** around in either. That dude in the video was in shape, walked with authority, and carried himself professionally, but you just want to get your panties in a wad and put him down because he's wearing a functional uniform for his work environment.
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Yeah we all learned about that study, but it fails in that the way a cop carries himself has nothing to do with whether they're wearing a high gloss belt/boots and starched trooper uniform or a "soft uniform".

You can look like a piece of **** in either or a professional who won't **** around in either. That dude in the video was in shape, walked with authority, and carried himself professionally, but you just want to get your panties in a wad and put him down because he's wearing a functional uniform for his work environment.
I'm not critiquing the officer, I was simply conveying that I understood the point that Bren was making.

I myself don't have an issue with the uniform that the officer was wearing. But these kids also weren't your common criminal bent of off'ing a cop, so I'm sure his appearance made no difference to them...

But in the eyes of anybody wishing to do harm, or worse, to anybody, chances are that they will choose to carry out their acts on somebody that they feel isn't squared away. If somebody was a slob, and didn't bother to square away their appearance, then chances are they haven't taken the time to square away their defensive tactics, shooting, etc etc. and most criminals know this.

We study criminals, and most criminals study us. However, I also recognize the fact that some turds will attempt violence against us no matter what.

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Old 10-08-2012, 07:07   #48
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Personally, I'd just about kill to be able to wear a uniform like that, and I already work for a relatively forward thinking department that issues BDU pants and shorts for summer time (which I won't wear, because the inseam is ridiculously short). I don't know if I'd strap quite as much stuff on it, but I'd LOVE to have an external carrier. A sloppy and uncertain cop is going to look as such regardless of what he's (or she) is wearing. Hell, a sloppy guy in class As (and there are plenty of them around) is about the worst looking cop out there.
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Now this is more like it

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Again I reiterate, you do that in my neck of the woods and you WILL be proned out and arrested.
In the case of some smarta**ed teens- sounds like that's just what they need. That cop has more important things to do... and those hemorrhoids need a life lesson real quick

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