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Old 10-06-2012, 10:57   #1
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Does ankle carry get a bad rap?

I have an Alessi ankle holster for my Kahr P9 but I don't use it much. I usually carry a S&W 642 in my pocket. Anyway, I tried my ankle holster the other day and it was good. The pro's are that it can fit with almost all long pants and hides well, especially with jeans. I know the major drawback is, well, the draw. But is it really that much different then having to reach into your pocket or your IWB holster? It is obviously an advantage while you're in the car or sitting down in a resturant or whatever too. Is it really that bad?
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:22   #2
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Practice makes perfect. Sounds simple.

Drawing from your ankle takes some practice compared to drawing from a holster on your belt or even from a pocket holster.

I carry a 642 as a BUG, primarily in an ankle holster. Sometimes an ankle holster is your best option, or only option when carrying, depending on your dress.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:31   #3
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Ditto the above.

Also, drawing from jeans is especially difficult, more so than looser slacks and softer cloth. Consider doing a small job with velcro in the lower part of your jeans left inside seam. A good job will disguise it extremely well and access will be a lot easier. I carry my 340 PD every day and hardly know it is there, from the moment I put my socks on to my pajamas at night it is always there and has become part of my dresswear.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:39   #4
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I used to carry a 642 BUG on my ankle while on duty. It worked well for many years, but I always had it in the back of my mind that if I had to go hands on I had two guns to protect vs one, especially if the fight went to the ground. I now carry my j-frame in my off hand front pocket, I still am aware of two guns, but I feel it's less noticed and a little more secure in my pocket. Another plus is the ability to get to it if I must hold onto my Glock with my strong hand to defend against a gun grab or if my strong hand is injured.

If you drive all day or are sitting I think ankle carry has it's place, but there are other options available that merit consideration.

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Old 10-06-2012, 14:30   #5
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There are times and places ankle carry works well enough, with some weapons. I no longer carry at the ankle on a regular basis. When I do, I use Alessi rigs, and the ankle gun is virtually always a second or even third gun. Much of the time, the ankle gun option, for me, has been when in police uniform.

I learned, over time, to occasionally perform a "stomp" test of an open-top ankle rig's ability to retain the weapon. (Do this on a soft surface, that will not scratch the weapon!) Even the excellent Alessi cannot retain its ability to retain a heavy weapon such as an SP101 forever. One may well still be able to run with a rig which fails the stomp test, but in a fight, with a powerful downward-stroke kick, the weapon's inertia could overcome the holster's friction.

My beloved Alessi lefty rig no longer carries an SP101 regularly, after failing the stomp test, after several years of regular use. Sometimes, I will use this ankle rig for vehicular travel, and transfer the SP101 to a pocket holster upon exiting the vehicle. This makes sense, as the pocket holster can be difficult from which to draw while seated, whereas the ankle rig is readily at-hand while seated. (I should add that my "primary" carry position is at 0300; the pocket or ankle position is for a second gun.)

Keep in mind that ankle rigs let a weapon get very dirty, very quickly, with everything from common grit to dust bunnies.
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Old 10-06-2012, 14:32   #6
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I would say as a Bug it is fine. If it is normal carry no. To hard to draw from in most situations. It is better than not carrying. But very hard to draw on the run.


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Old 10-06-2012, 15:21   #7
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Certainly would beat not having a gun when you needed one presuming you could get to it quickly enough.
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Old 10-06-2012, 15:36   #8
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I ankle carry everyday. I carry my g26 on my ankle while on duty at the PD. I have never had a problem and even sometimes forget I even have it on.


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Old 10-06-2012, 15:52   #9
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I tried it once many years ago. Maybe the newer holsters are better but what if a person needs to run to get out of the rain or to take cover in a bad situation? Mine seemed to flop around a bit.

Like I said it's been years since I tried one.
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Old 10-06-2012, 16:14   #10
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I know a lot of folks do it but I do not care for it. If someone is in top of you and your pants ride up ( which they will do) your leg it is seen and no way to guard it.




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Old 10-06-2012, 20:53   #11
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ankle carry

I've ankle carried for years and just took one off to clean up after putting my kiddos washer & dryer in.

I bought a P9 Covert about 10 yrs ago as a bug. After a bit of asking/looking, I settled for an Alessi. I wore it above my 8" work boot but it never seemed to cinch tight enough. I bought a cheap DeSantis Apache velcro wrap a round and liked it a lot better than Lou's rig.

I climbed through crawl spaces, up and down ladders all day, climbed through hospital ceilings, worked in trenches, ran after coffee trucks and had it on sometimes for 10 -12 hrs a day and literally forgot it was there.
Downside is holster life span which ranged from a year to about 2, depending on how crapped up the velcro got. I bought 4 at one time and the last one will need to be replaced soon. I wear a knee brace under it to keep it cleaner than not wearing something.

I understand DeSantis has a newer version and will look into it.

Like everything, presentation takes a fair amount of practice to do reasonable well and you DO have to practice. This BUG has become primary quite often and while it is the least optimal method to carry, it ensures that I have a gun. I carry 2 7 round mags in my front pocket and have had to replace jeans with holes in those pockets regularly.

It's not for everybody but it has become second nature to me even though I no longer work. It was always second to my Glock 23 when that was concealable
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Old 10-06-2012, 22:19   #12
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I dont like it for primary carry. If going discreet I prefer pocket carry. I do carry a jframe on my ankle when working patrol as a BUG.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:04   #13
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I have a De Santis Apache also and use on long drives with my G-27.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:21   #14
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Drawing from your ankle may be slower, but it beats not having a gun.

I know 3 police officers who have shot a person with their backup gun. All 3 had it in an ankle holster. One had plenty of time to draw, during a stand-off with a crazy guy, when he thought his S&W main gun wasn't working, and one drew while laying in his car seat with a guy trying to hit him with a crow bar. The third was on his knees with a loaded 10mm pointed at him, but the bad guy thought he had to rack the slide to chamber a round, like they do in the movies, which (sorry "Israeli method" guys) gave the officer time to draw his backup from the ankle holster and shoot the guy 7 times.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:12   #15
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I worked at the Pentagon for awhile and we carried snub kframes in ankle holsters because the generals were afraid of guns. I'm here to tell you steel kframes don't make good ankle guns.

I am going to get an ankle holster for my 442 for those times when I will be doing a lot of sitting (church, going out to dinner, etc.).

The 442 is a backup to a belt carried gun.

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Old 10-07-2012, 09:14   #16
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I don't do it often but I think it has its place and is one more option to have.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:39   #17
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I have an Alessi ankle holster for my Kahr P9 but I don't use it much. I usually carry a S&W 642 in my pocket. Anyway, I tried my ankle holster the other day and it was good. The pro's are that it can fit with almost all long pants and hides well, especially with jeans. I know the major drawback is, well, the draw. But is it really that much different then having to reach into your pocket or your IWB holster? It is obviously an advantage while you're in the car or sitting down in a resturant or whatever too. Is it really that bad?
Dude....carry the way that makes you feel comfortable. Just read up and practice on getting to your handgun, all things will become apparent .
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:40   #18
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I ride a motorcycle at times... and an ankle holster w/G26 .. it fits the situation... its pretty easy to reach down and draw it.. but of coarse i have my G19 in IWB also..

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Old 10-08-2012, 19:26   #19
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