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10-01-2012, 21:25
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The magazine says 8, there's room in the chamber for one more and IMHO, 9 holes are better than 8
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10-02-2012, 08:38
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I would say yes. I probably wouldn't top off a 15 shot Glock 22, but a single stack gun I would.
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10-02-2012, 08:48
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Originally Posted by dakrat
that is why manufacturers advertise them as "8+1" capacity..
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10-02-2012, 13:54
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After reading the OP I instantly asked myself, "why not?" Why would you not go capacity + 1 specially when faced with low capacity in the first place? Honestly I find myself getting lazy from time to time and not pulling the mag to load that extra round but it's a bad habit to get into.
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10-03-2012, 02:31
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I don't as I'm concerned about compromising reliability. Maybe with the new Wilson ETM Magazines that have a longer magazine body, but otherwise I feel comfortable with 7 plus one in the chamber with at least one reload on the belt.
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10-03-2012, 10:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary1911A1
I don't as I'm concerned about compromising reliability. Maybe with the new Wilson ETM Magazines that have a longer magazine body, but otherwise I feel comfortable with 7 plus one in the chamber with at least one reload on the belt.
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Explain what would cause a compromise in reliability.
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10-03-2012, 11:13
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Explain what would cause a compromise in reliability.
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Supposedly the lores or wives' tales from back the days is that when you chamber the first round, the second round also moves forward a hair and positions itself for better feeding after the first shot fired.
Of course this "logic" (you gotta love gunzine writers for some of the craps they pass on as logic or scientific fact, but hey they gotta make a living) didn't take into account that the first round on top of the mag isn't positioned forward anyway.
You, I and a host of others who have been formally trained with weapons know that you seat the rounds so that the bases of the cartridges are against the spine of the magazine so that the bullet noses don't contact the front of the magazine and cause feeding issues.
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10-03-2012, 11:51
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Even so if you really think the round being slightly forward gives you an advantage you can always manually push that top round forward before reinserting the mag. Either way there's no reason to be down a round.
I have yet to find a gun magazine worth much. The one I had faith in (Recoil) turned out to be a disapointment.
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10-03-2012, 12:19
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I top off carry guns. I've already chosen to have 9 without a reload rather than 18 or 20no need to go 1 fewer.
1911s that are loaded in the safe I don't top off because of the gut feeling that it is better for the mag spring when the gun may sit that way for extended periods.
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10-03-2012, 12:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkeat
Even so if you really think the round being slightly forward gives you an advantage you can always manually push that top round forward before reinserting the mag.
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Yeah, they can do that if they feel so strongly about the second round being positioned forward.
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Either way there's no reason to be down a round.
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No scientific reason to not top off. I don't top off because I don't believe that one round would make or break me, but not because topping off is going to cause a "jam". Personal preference is one thing, wives' tales is another.
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10-03-2012, 13:59
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Originally Posted by fnfalman
Yeah, they can do that if they feel so strongly about the second round being positioned forward.
No scientific reason to not top off. I don't top off because I don't believe that one round would make or break me, but not because topping off is going to cause a "jam". Personal preference is one thing, wives' tales is another.
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Makes sense.
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10-05-2012, 10:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fnfalman
You, I and a host of others who have been formally trained with weapons know that you seat the rounds so that the bases of the cartridges are against the spine of the magazine so that the bullet noses don't contact the front of the magazine and cause feeding issues.
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Yep that's why you bang the mag on your head like you are packing a box of Marlboros. Helps if you have a helmet.
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10-06-2012, 05:10
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or you could just bang it against your palm...
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10-06-2012, 16:27
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Originally Posted by silversport
or you could just bang it against your palm...
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Hey that might help me to save on aspirin.
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10-06-2012, 22:39
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Quote:
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or you could just bang it against your palm...
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Or bang it on a private's head. That's what they're there for.
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10-06-2012, 23:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fnfalman
Supposedly the lores or wives' tales from back the days is that when you chamber the first round, the second round also moves forward a hair and positions itself for better feeding after the first shot fired....
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What does that next round do while the slide is cycling back after firing that first round?
If your gun even hints that this is an issue, you have overall reliability problems that you need to address before you trust your life to it, regardless of how you load it.
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10-06-2012, 23:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAC702
What does that next round do while the slide is cycling back after firing that first round?
If your gun even hints that this is an issue, you have overall reliability problems that you need to address before you trust your life to it, regardless of how you load it.
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That's why I said that it was "wives' tales".
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10-07-2012, 01:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dakrat
that is why manufacturers advertise them as "8+1" capacity..
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I always assumed that +1 was for the one I kept in my shirt pocket.
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