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Old 10-03-2012, 12:11   #51
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Perhaps the phrase for him should be; "Stick a fork in him. He's done."

And, since I didn't have any popcorn handy I had a cinnamon roll and some milk. I rather enjoyed it.
Yep. it's about time for one more genius to start their own PTSD thread.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:14   #52
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Only OC activists can believe two things that contradict one another and yet believe BOTH to be true.

Example: They maintain that a openly carried firearm is a deterrent to criminals. But then also maintain that a firearm should be viewed as no different than a pencil or some other mundane item.

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Old 10-05-2012, 11:25   #53
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Only OC activists can believe two things that contradict one another and yet believe BOTH to be true.

Example: They maintain that a openly carried firearm is a deterrent to criminals. But then also maintain that a firearm should be viewed as no different than a pencil or some other mundane item.

...like a book...
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:32   #54
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Only OC activists can believe two things that contradict one another and yet believe BOTH to be true.

Example: They maintain that a openly carried firearm is a deterrent to criminals. But then also maintain that a firearm should be viewed as no different than a pencil or some other mundane item.

Good point. Although, I think deep down inside most of the OC activists (and i'm talking about the orange-tip AK47 carrying, youtube-posting hacks) really do believe something more about their OC habits.

Case in point, the commentary that goes along with one of the random Youtube activism videos. (This one targeting Walmart).


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"A couple of times Ive even seen other customers performing open carry, making the statement "I will not be a victim, give me peace and yield to me without violence", as is the typical statement we that open carry wish to convey."

I think the three words emphasized above is what most OC activists seem want to convey.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:19   #55
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Good point. Although, I think deep down inside most of the OC activists (and i'm talking about the orange-tip AK47 carrying, youtube-posting hacks) really do believe something more about their OC habits.

Case in point, the commentary that goes along with one of the random Youtube activism videos. (This one targeting Walmart).

Walmart Cashier Freaks Out About Open Carry In Virginia - YouTube

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"A couple of times Ive even seen other customers performing open carry, making the statement "I will not be a victim, give me peace and yield to me without violence", as is the typical statement we that open carry wish to convey."

I think the three words emphasized above is what most OC activists seem want to convey.
If they are trying normalize open carry why do they carry a recordr to go shopping and does he have permission to record her. Is it possible he's violating the wiretap laws?
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:24   #56
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Good point. Although, I think deep down inside most of the OC activists (and i'm talking about the orange-tip AK47 carrying, youtube-posting hacks) really do believe something more about their OC habits.
I see it as little more than OC activists talking out of both sides of their mouth depending on which view benefits them at the moment.

The obvious flaw in their "thinking" is that if a gun really no different than a book or a pencil why not carry a book or a pencil for self defense instead of a gun?

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Old 10-05-2012, 13:03   #57
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I see it as little more than OC activists talking out of both sides of their mouth depending on which view benefits them at the moment.

The obvious flaw in their "thinking" is that if a gun really no different than a book or a pencil why not carry a book or a pencil for self defense instead of a gun?

My 45ACP pencil beats your 9mm pencil.
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Old 10-05-2012, 13:20   #58
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My 45ACP pencil beats your 9mm pencil.
That is only true in a fair fight.


But I never fight fair.

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Old 10-05-2012, 13:42   #59
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My 45ACP pencil beats your 9mm pencil.
I dunno, I've always said a 9mm pencil to the eye socket will end the fight pretty decisively. And I carry a 45 pencil on duty!
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Old 10-05-2012, 14:18   #60
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I dunno, I've always said a 9mm pencil to the eye socket will end the fight pretty decisively. And I carry a 45 pencil on duty!
In all seriousness, pencils (real pencils) can be very, very dangerous. We should ban them:


I rest my case, gentlemen.
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Well, my 10MM pencil................
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Also, let us not forget what an important part an oversized belt buckle can play in such an encounter, espcially if it displays the official WWF logo.
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Old 10-05-2012, 18:58   #63
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That is only true in a fair fight.


But I never fight fair.

I'm more of a pencil placement kind of guy. You can fill a guy full of lead, but if you don't hit anything vital, its all for nothing.

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I empty my pockets and dump all my duty pencils just in case I have to go hands on but I have my backup pencil on my ankle so I can surprise the attacker.
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Old 10-05-2012, 21:40   #65
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I'm more of a pencil placement kind of guy. You can fill a guy full of lead, but if you don't hit anything vital, its all for nothing.

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There's nothing like Open Carrying my evil black assault pencil with the sharp pointy tip.
It's not really safe carrying that way. You need to practice drawing and sharpening it in one motion. Operators call that "the Israeli Method".

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I empty my pockets and dump all my duty pencils just in case I have to go hands on but I have my backup pencil on my ankle so I can surprise the attacker.
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You guys are too new school.. I carry a paper clip and a piece of string, MacGyver style..
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There's nothing like Open Carrying my evil black assault pencil with the sharp pointy tip.
And, one thing you learn quick with the U.S. Government issued tactical black ball point assault pen, is to carry lots of backups.

Most of them don't have high enough ink capacity to fill out a standard government form.
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Only OC activists can believe two things that contradict one another and yet believe BOTH to be true.

Example: They maintain that a openly carried firearm is a deterrent to criminals. But then also maintain that a firearm should be viewed as no different than a pencil or some other mundane item.

That's it.

Bad guys should see OC, and immediately see a steely eyed killer, ready to draw down and deal lead, and have urine run down their leg, thinking how close they came to termination, by just even contemplating about committing a robbery.

Good guys, should see OC, and see a benevolent display of personal rights, a gentle man who would only act if prodded past the limits of human tolerance for bad behavior, if only the butterflies and bluebirds flying around him would just get out of the way enough to actually see OC.

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I've found that most people can care less about the pencil. But, when you are packing that big black pen full of ink, most people have a different perspective. It is an odd thing. I have been chasing people through the brush with only a pencil and they don't feel the need to stop running away until I trip and accidentally fall on top of them. But, when I have chased them throught he brush with the big black pen they, stop, panic, and sometimes cry. I never understood the difference between the pencil and the pen. They both do the same job.
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You guys are too new school.. I carry a paper clip and a piece of string, MacGyver style..
Without a piece of Wrigley's gum, the paper clip and string would be almost useless.

You, sir, are just a beginner.
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I have been known to ruin a few inmates' days with just a simple pen, and a certain blank form.....
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<----Uses FN mechanical pencil... extra pointy, and lots of ammo! Plus easy to unload when its time to go hands on like Lawman said.
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<----Uses FN mechanical pencil... extra pointy, and lots of ammo! Plus easy to unload when its time to go hands on like Lawman said.
Is it true those plastic mechanical pencils don't have enough wood to set off a pencil detector????

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