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10-03-2012, 08:52
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Methberry PD
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I'd get tased all damn day over OC.
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10-03-2012, 09:11
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NC
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We got both in one day. TASER in the morning, OC in the afternoon. They both sucked a big fat one. I'd love to never have to do either again. I think the TASER hurt more, but it was over in 5 seconds and I was back to normal (heart not racing) within 5 minutes. The OC sucked and I was out of commission for over an hour.
I understand the exposure just to be able to articulate on the stand why I did or did not do something.
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10-03-2012, 09:11
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#28
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Crazy CO
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kansas, near the bison.
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Pepper. Not real bad, if you don't mind lasting after affects, and getting as much as the person who you're spraying.
With that being said, we don't get TASER training, and no longer are authorised stun belts because of our facility custody level.
Now, eat some hot stuff.
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10-03-2012, 11:13
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
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FWIW, twice now I've been shocked while attempting to cuff an offender while my partner was doing a drive stun with the Taser. I'm glad I was tased, so it doesn't surprise me as much (although I still yell "*******!!!" when it happens). The OC makes sense, because now you know how to fight through it when you get yourself in the eyes while trying to spray an offender in the wind.
Oh, and about the baton... I gave myself a half-swing in the thigh with both my wood stick and my ASP. Both hurt like hell and bruise. So I feel like I can testify that it hurts like a biotch. 
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10-03-2012, 11:47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by socalchuckster
Maybe because I was THAT kid sticking a fork in the electic outlet as a kid.... but let me ride the five any day of the week compared to OC.
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It was a pair of metal barber sheers for me. Sent damn near across the room. I subsequently **** myself when my mom rushed into the room.
Something about electricity fascinates me.
Kuwabara Kuwabara(points if anyone knows the meaning)
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10-03-2012, 12:33
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Street Person
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: On the corner of Gang and Ghetto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Schaffer
Kuwabara Kuwabara(points if anyone knows the meaning)
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Some invocation to do with electrical storms. I used to hear it in Oki when a storm front rolled it.
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10-03-2012, 12:38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Schaffer
It was a pair of metal barber sheers for me. Sent damn near across the room. I subsequently **** myself when my mom rushed into the room.
Something about electricity fascinates me.
Kuwabara Kuwabara(points if anyone knows the meaning)
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Along the lines of "knock on wood," right?
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10-03-2012, 13:23
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*goes to 11*
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: SW Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishSheepdog54
FWIW, twice now I've been shocked while attempting to cuff an offender while my partner was doing a drive stun with the Taser.
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I shocked myself while I was drive stunning a guy inside of my cruiser... had my arm on the cage and got some of the current through it.
(the guy was combative drunk that had already been pepper sprayed as well...   )
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10-03-2012, 14:39
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Mr. Awesome
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kansas
Posts: 6,519
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueiron
Start with a 9 volt battery on your tongue and proceed from there!
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In rare cases, this can kill you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cochese
Taser all day everyday.
OC sucks the rigid cock of Satan.
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When he's angry and smashing skulls with a rubber mallet.
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10-03-2012, 14:50
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Unusual Member
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
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There is something natural about OC pain. It is... just pain.
Taser? That feels like someone attached a blowtorch to a jackhammer and ran it up and down your spine for a few seconds. Evil. Worst 5 seconds of my life.
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10-03-2012, 15:13
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NOT the PNW (yet)
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Great. You guys are freaking me out. We're getting Tasers soon (not sure which...probably the kind that connect to the car's battery with jumper cables) but I'm 50/50 on taking the ride. I like Morris's approach: it's best to actually KNOW the effects when testifying. But, OTOH, I likely won't be the only one in training that pees his pants so I'll just man up and do it.
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10-03-2012, 15:20
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Middle
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The "cmon be a man!" peer pressure will make it hard NOT to participate. It's like Jr High all over again!
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10-03-2012, 15:28
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BOOSH
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: "Great" Lakes State
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottydl
The "cmon be a man!" peer pressure will make it hard NOT to participate. It's like Jr High all over again!
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I didn't know you worked for my department!
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10-03-2012, 16:50
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nikerret
In rare cases, this can kill you.
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Really? I was a semi-professional musician in a former life and used to test 9 volts this way all the time....who knew I was playing such a dangerous game!
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I even began to question the value of life. Then I remembered there's beef jerky. And, once again, a man was saved by the promise of dry meat.
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10-03-2012, 17:34
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Street Person
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: On the corner of Gang and Ghetto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nikerret
In rare cases, this can kill you.
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So can freezing your tongue to a light pole, but it's time to stop listening to Consumer Reports and just harden up.
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Dear God, this is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. It's got to rank right up there with CALEA. -Pepper45
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10-03-2012, 18:42
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Isaiah 53:4-9
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueiron
So can freezing your tongue to a light pole, but it's time to stop listening to Consumer Reports and just harden up. |
Yeah, like doing full contact DT without a redman suit. 
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10-03-2012, 19:07
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No Infidels!
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Circling the wagons.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lndshark
Great. You guys are freaking me out. We're getting Tasers soon (not sure which...probably the kind that connect to the car's battery with jumper cables) but I'm 50/50 on taking the ride. I like Morris's approach: it's best to actually KNOW the effects when testifying. But, OTOH, I likely won't be the only one in training that pees his pants so I'll just man up and do it.
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Man up and take it. Over 100,000 VOLUNTEERS have done so, plus all of the "less than voluntary" exposures.
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10-03-2012, 19:59
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Keystone Cop
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lndshark
Great. You guys are freaking me out. We're getting Tasers soon (not sure which...probably the kind that connect to the car's battery with jumper cables) but I'm 50/50 on taking the ride. I like Morris's approach: it's best to actually KNOW the effects when testifying. But, OTOH, I likely won't be the only one in training that pees his pants so I'll just man up and do it.
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Make sure you have someone record the event (if you can) so you can have a lifetime of laughs at your own expense. My mother, to this day, refuses to watch my taser video. She says something about not being able to listen to her son scream. My wife, however, finds it hysterical. 
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"If you stopped yourself every time you said, 'I have to', and change it to, 'I get to', it might change your entire experience."
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10-04-2012, 01:45
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Unusual Member
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979
Make sure you have someone record the event (if you can) so you can have a lifetime of laughs at your own expense. My mother, to this day, refuses to watch my taser video. She says something about not being able to listen to her son scream. My wife, however, finds it hysterical. |
I have no problem listening to you scream. Post it here 
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Maybe I'm crazy. --DaBigBR
This wasn't me... --DaBigBR
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10-04-2012, 03:06
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Keystone Cop
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by PinkoCommie
I have no problem listening to you scream. Post it here |
I'd have no problem doing just that...except it would violate department policy to publicly display any form of "training" on the internet.
Trust me, this battle has been fought and lost. 
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"If you stopped yourself every time you said, 'I have to', and change it to, 'I get to', it might change your entire experience."
Deputy Kyle Pagerly, Berks Co.Sheriff's Office, PA. EOW 6/29/2011.
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10-04-2012, 03:53
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Diesel Girl
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Somewhere in Ohio
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I'll take the Taser. OC is the the gift that keeps on giving.
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10-04-2012, 07:38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 467
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Not everyone reacts the same to OC. I'm overly sensitive and refuse to even carry it on duty. It literally blinds me for close to 30 minutes.
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