[RyanBDawg]

Originally Posted by 427

Wrong. He had an accident in 2005.

Sorry! Thought it was in his second term. Forgot he was elected originally in 2000 not 1998.

[.264 magnum]

Originally Posted by Harper

I didn't mean make up the probabilities. I said post the probabilities. Post the math and please show the method you used, including significant figures.

Stop being obtuse. The guy is not going to win. The best he can do is cost Romney a point or two - as you are so nicely proving. That is the only math that matters.

[427]

Originally Posted by RyanBDawg

Sorry! Thought it was in his second term. Forgot he was elected originally in 2000 not 1998.

Johnson was elected in 1995 and out in 2003.

[Fiery Red XIII]

Originally Posted by RyanBDawg

Another reason why I dislike both candidates.

Both are lying little weasels! Yea for endless war regardless of who is President! That's exactly what we need!

Ron Paul lies about being a republican too... he sells out his own principles to run on the 2 party ticket, then when he loses, refuses to help the party he ran on.

Red

[427]

Originally Posted by Fiery Red XIII

Ron Paul lies about being a republican too... he sells out his own principles to run on the 2 party ticket, then when he loses, refuses to help the party he ran on.

Red

He wanted to cut social security, but collects from it.

[Fiery Red XIII]

Originally Posted by RyanBDawg

Are you going to be on the ballot of all 50 states like Gary Johnson is?

Wasn't Gary a republican too, til he lost in the primaries? So, was he like RP lying to be in the republican running, or did he sell out when he didn't get the nomination?

Red

[RyanBDawg]

Originally Posted by Fiery Red XIII

Ron Paul lies about being a republican too... he sells out his own principles to run on the 2 party ticket, then when he loses, refuses to help the party he ran on.

Red

Ron Paul didn't abandon the Republican party, the Republican party abandoned Ron Paul.

The Republican party of today is in no way like the Republican party of yesteryear.

[Random]

Originally Posted by .264 magnum

Precisely. Imagine a simple single beam balance scale and one's vote is a one pound weight. Your one pound placed on the right is a vote for Romney, one pound on the left is a vote for Obama. A vote for RP/Gary Johnson/George Jetson/anyone else who cannot win and issued by a conservative is a vote/pound taken from Romney and thrown in the trash can.

I like the funny math

[Fiery Red XIII]

Originally Posted by 427

He wanted to cut social security, but collects from it.

Why does he cash the checks? If he is so against it?

Red

[Fiery Red XIII]

Originally Posted by RyanBDawg

Ron Paul didn't abandon the Republican party, the Republican party abandoned Ron Paul.

Traitors don't deserve help. The Republican party of today is in no way like the Republican party of yesteryear.

Then why did he run as a republican again? then not endorse the repub. nominee?

Red

[RyanBDawg]

Originally Posted by Fiery Red XIII

Then why did he run as a republican again? then not endorse the repub. nominee?

Red

Because the Republican nominee is a flip flopping carpetbagger who is a RINO?

[427]

Originally Posted by RyanBDawg

Ron Paul didn't abandon the Republican party, the Republican party abandoned Ron Paul.

The Republican party of today is in no way like the Republican party of yesteryear.

Paul was/is an establishment Republican who collects from .gov programs he's against.

edit - I voted for Paul in my state's primary.

[tantrix]

Watching two idiots argue and nobody actually proposing a solution...good thing I'm voting for neither.

[RyanBDawg]

Originally Posted by 427

Paul was/is an establishment Republican who collects from .gov programs he's against.

edit - I voted for Paul in my state's primary.

I think the establishment Republicans in Washington would disagree with you.

Awesome, glad you voted for him.

[AtlantaR6]

Originally Posted by Detectorist

One has to admire Obama for knowingly debating someone who will thrash him every time. He had to know it, too.

So he had a choice and could have called in sick?

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by RyanBDawg

Because the Republican nominee is a flip flopping carpetbagger who is a RINO?

Yep...it's so easy to see straight through Romney, but the hate for Obama will make most people praise him anyway. The Romney love-fest is strong here though...if you're not voting for him you'll be called an Obama lover, rebel, Paulbot, etc.


(I'm voting Gary Johnson...don't tell anyone...)

[Harper]

Originally Posted by .264 magnum

Stop being obtuse.

Then who are you going to make up non-obtuse arguments against about make believe probabilities, scales, thank you cards from Obama supporters and all the other laser precise brilliant apothegms you Romney guys come up with? Tell me who is going to make these great voting mathematical advances if obtuse indirect Obama single beam scale tipping supporters don't spur the brilliance along. This election is too important.

Now can someone please go into great detail about how supporting Gary Johnson is really a vote for Obama?

[RyanBDawg]

Originally Posted by Harper

Now can someone please go into great detail about how supporting Gary Johnson is really a vote for Obama?

I also want an explanation for this, I've never understood it.



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[ilgunguygt]

Its been explained 10 times over. If you cant get it through your heads, sorry, no amount of explaining will help you. Simply asking the same question over and over is a Katie Couric trick.

If you really dont like Obama, yet you will vote for someone who stands no chance at winning, instead of the person who could beat him with your vote and others like you, then you are giving the election to Obama.

If thats too complicated for you, you probably shouldnt be voting in the first place. Your willingness to sacrifice things like the 2nd amendment so that you can "stand your moral ground" doesnt make you morally superior, it makes you stupid.

[Harper]

Originally Posted by ilgunguygt

Its been explained 10 times over. If you cant get it through your heads, sorry, no amount of explaining will help you. Simply asking the same question over and over is a Katie Couric trick.

If you really dont like Obama, yet you will vote for someone who stands no chance at winning, instead of the person who could beat him with your vote and others like you, then you are giving the election to Obama.

If thats too complicated for you, you probably shouldnt be voting in the first place. Your willingness to sacrifice things like the 2nd amendment so that you can "stand your moral ground" doesnt make you morally superior, it makes you stupid.

But how does voting for Johnson take away a vote for Romney? Wouldn't that mean that voting for Romney takes away a vote for Johnson by the distributive property so that if enough people vote for Romney, Johnson will end up with negative votes? I guess I'll wait till after the election to see if you guys are right.

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by ilgunguygt

Its been explained 10 times over. If you cant get it through your heads, sorry, no amount of explaining will help you. Simply asking the same question over and over is a Katie Couric trick.

If you really dont like Obama, yet you will vote for someone who stands no chance at winning, instead of the person who could beat him with your vote and others like you, then you are giving the election to Obama.

If thats too complicated for you, you probably shouldnt be voting in the first place. Your willingness to sacrifice things like the 2nd amendment so that you can "stand your moral ground" doesnt make you morally superior, it makes you stupid.

I'm voting for the best man for the job, not one turd over another turd.


And by the way, how's that voting for the "lesser evil" working out for you in Illinois?

Thought so.


When you live in a ****pond, you don't get to tell other people how to vote.

[frank4570]

Originally Posted by tantrix

I'm voting for the best man for the job, not one turd over another turd.


And by the way, how's that voting for the "lesser evil" working out for you in Illinois?

Thought so.


When you live in a ****pond, you don't get to tell other people how to vote.

People don't seem to understand that republicans do NOT reflect the views of libertarians. It's a shame this country doesn't care much for the constitution anymore.

[Fiery Red XIII]

Originally Posted by frank4570

People don't seem to understand that republicans do NOT reflect the views of libertarians. It's a shame this country doesn't care much for the constitution anymore.

Exactly...so why do so many libertarians run as republicans...but then shun the party when they lose nominations? Every libertarian I have ever met HATES Abe Lincoln.

Red

[Fiery Red XIII]

Originally Posted by RyanBDawg

Because the Republican nominee is a flip flopping carpetbagger who is a RINO?

So why should RP lie to compete against him?

Red

[frank4570]

Originally Posted by Fiery Red XIII

Exactly...so why do so many libertarians run as republicans...but then shun the party when they lose nominations? Every libertarian I have ever met HATES Abe Lincoln.

Red

I think the fact that they lose the nomination demonstrates the fact that republicans don't reflect their beliefs. Why support people who don't think like you?