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Old 09-30-2012, 09:18   #26
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My first choice is the 155gr Gold Dots followed by 165gr Gold Dots.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:44   #27
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I think that I would do realistic penetration tests with both weights of .40 S&W. I still thing that the 165gr load would come out on top.
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:42   #28
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Well the counter argument is that in shorter barrels faster loads lose more velocity as a percentage. Personally I still prefer mid-weights, regardless of barrel length.
I'm not sure about .40s but in .44s and .357s this is true. the slower bullet moves out of the barrel slower giving more burn time. I always go mid weight exept for my 27 thats loaded with 180 HSTs.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:52   #29
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My next gun

will be a G22 or 23, so I'll try the 165s.
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Old 10-01-2012, 16:47   #30
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I have the 155g Gold Dots in all my .40's (Glocks & M&P's). My guns seem to like them.
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Old 10-01-2012, 17:31   #31
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I have the 155g Gold Dots in all my .40's (Glocks & M&P's). My guns seem to like them.
What the velocities are for the 155gr Gold Dots?
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Old 10-02-2012, 19:24   #32
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I like the 180gr Gold dot, but I just recently switched to 155gr XTP pushed by BlueDot @ 1150fps. This may not be the fastest load for this bullet, but it's the most accurate I have fired in my G23. The XTP penetrates deep, doesn't expand as much as the competition (about .56-.58), and is dead on accurate. Plus I like the recoil impulse since I seem to get back on target pretty quick with these.
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Old 10-02-2012, 20:44   #33
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I like the 180gr Gold dot, but I just recently switched to 155gr XTP pushed by BlueDot @ 1150fps. This may not be the fastest load for this bullet, but it's the most accurate I have fired in my G23. The XTP penetrates deep, doesn't expand as much as the competition (about .56-.58), and is dead on accurate. Plus I like the recoil impulse since I seem to get back on target pretty quick with these.
I think this is what it's all about, finding something that works for you.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:24   #34
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My next pistol

will be a G23 for CCW. I'll have to study up on carry loads.
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Old 10-03-2012, 20:43   #35
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will be a G23 for CCW. I'll have to study up on carry loads.
I love my Gen 4 G23. I have had no trouble with it at all. It is a soft shooting handgun, making it a lot of fun at the range.

With a .40 Glock you'll be able to get a G32 barrel and a .40-9mm conversion barrel. If you don't want a G32 barrel you can buy an extended barrel with or without ports/threading. Storm Lake has QPQ barrels, ask Barth about his QPQ 357 barrel for his G27.
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Old 10-03-2012, 23:21   #36
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Neither. 180gr HST.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:52   #37
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Neither. 180gr HST.
Those and GS bonded are my choice for 180.

GD are my choice for 155 and 165.

If I had to pick just one bullet to use in .40 it'd be the GD 165.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:27   #38
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I love my Gen 4 G23. I have had no trouble with it at all. It is a soft shooting handgun, making it a lot of fun at the range.

With a .40 Glock you'll be able to get a G32 barrel and a .40-9mm conversion barrel. If you don't want a G32 barrel you can buy an extended barrel with or without ports/threading. Storm Lake has QPQ barrels, ask Barth about his QPQ 357 barrel for his G27.
I never thought of that - getting a longer replacement barrel for a G23.
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Old 10-04-2012, 14:42   #39
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I'm in the process of selecting a .40 carry round. I really like the shootability of the 180gr HST. Need to order a few more 165gr of various brands though to compare with. Ranger-T in 165 is not easy to find.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:24   #40
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Does anyone know about .40S&W 155gr bullet velocities?
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Does anyone know about .40S&W 155gr bullet velocities?
Speer claims 1200 fps:

http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics...x?loadNo=23961

I didn't chrono this ammo, but I can say it does feel peppy in my G23.
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Old 10-05-2012, 14:52   #42
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If you like the shootability, why look any farther? It expands more with equivalent penetration. What more can you want?

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I'm in the process of selecting a .40 carry round. I really like the shootability of the 180gr HST. Need to order a few more 165gr of various brands though to compare with. Ranger-T in 165 is not easy to find.
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Old 10-05-2012, 15:33   #43
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I believe defensive handgun ammo is designed to be optimum in a 4" barrel weapon (the exception being labeled short barrel ammo). Given that, I tend to shoot the heaviest bullet available.
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Old 10-05-2012, 15:43   #44
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Speer claims 1200 fps:

http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics...x?loadNo=23961

I didn't chrono this ammo, but I can say it does feel peppy in my G23.
I agree. They definitely feel like they're cooking pretty good although very controllable.




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Old 10-05-2012, 15:51   #45
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So let's have your opinion, out of a 4" barrel would you run GD 155gr or GD 165gr? Why would you choose one over the other?

Also, if you wouldn't choose either, tell us what you would choose and why.
Factory told me some years ago to shoot GD165, has always worked well.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:58   #46
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Speaking of SD, I wonder what happens more often? A bullet passing all of the way through a felon, or a bullet stopping short of a vital area in a felon?
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Old 10-09-2012, 21:34   #47
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Speer claims 1200 fps:

http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics...x?loadNo=23961

I didn't chrono this ammo, but I can say it does feel peppy in my G23.
I wonder how the recoil is with this load?
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I wonder how the recoil is with this load?
You know you are firing a strong load, but controllable. This is how it is as fired from my gen 2 G23.
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You know you are firing a strong load, but controllable. This is how it is as fired from my gen 2 G23.
I haven't fired Speers 155, but my handloaded 155XTP @ 1150 feels strong, but very controllable, and I get back on target quick. I'm going to bump the load up to 1200-1220fps territory this weekend and see if the accuracy stays consistent. I expect the recoil to only be slightly stronger. I wish I had tried a tough 155 sooner.
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