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Old 10-03-2012, 21:38   #176
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WOW! One of the guys on CNN said, "Obama showed up to have a conversation with the american people. But to have a conversation requires both sides to participate. Mitt Romney showed up with a chainsaw."

Dang, go romney.
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Well depending on the next two debates my mind might change.
The only 'thanks' I want is from my daughter though. My decision ultimately affects her life.
You can vote for the guy who has the best chance to beat Obama, vote for a non-viable third party, or cut out the middleman and vote for Obama.

Those are the choices.
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Old 10-03-2012, 21:40   #178
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Because that is the reality - no matter how sad it is.
Most undecided voters are only tuning in the election race starting with the first televised debate.
"Because" isn't much of an answer.
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Well depending on the next two debates my mind might change.
The only 'thanks' I want is from my daughter though. My decision ultimately affects her life.
It does. Think of it like this. Obama wins and 2/3 more leftist will be appointed to The Supreme Court. Romney wins and maybe it's zero leftists and maybe even a demi-conservative or two.

That matters to you, me and your daughter. Supremes are the gift that gives and gives for decades.
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Old 10-03-2012, 21:41   #180
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The most surprising thing about this is how the left knows it. That is not how this stuff tends to work.

My knee jerk reation to that is "the left" isnt very much in love with their guy.
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CNN is about to interview a focus group of undecided voters to see how the debate has impacted their choice of candidate. This should be interesting.
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So if one cannot in good conscience vote for the lesser of two evils as presented, one should choose not to vote at all, so as to not vote, by proxy, for "the really bad guy."

yeah, that makes sense...
Even Ed schitz is saying it was a definite debate Romney win.

But I still like your avatar....she's hawt.
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Old 10-03-2012, 21:44   #183
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My knee jerk reation to that is "the left" isnt very much in love with their guy.
I think they are actually a little embarrassed at how he didn't deliver......
.......again.
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Even Ed schitz is saying it was a definite debate Romney win.

But I still like your avatar....she's hawt.
Had to google ed schitz.

Yes, she can also drive too!
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You can vote for the guy who has the best chance to beat Obama, vote for a non-viable third party, or cut out the middleman and vote for Obama.

Those are the choices.
Precisely. Imagine a simple single beam balance scale and one's vote is a one pound weight. Your one pound placed on the right is a vote for Romney, one pound on the left is a vote for Obama. A vote for RP/Gary Johnson/George Jetson/anyone else who cannot win and issued by a conservative is a vote/pound taken from Romney and thrown in the trash can.
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Precisely. Imagine a simple single beam balance scale and one's vote is a one pound weight. Your one pound placed on the right is a vote for Romney, one pound on the left is a vote for Obama. A vote for RP/Gary Johnson/George Jetson/anyone else who cannot win and issued by a conservative is a vote/pound taken from Romney and thrown in the trash can.
The other choice is to stay home - being an illegerate citizen.
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Old 10-03-2012, 21:57   #187
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I can't watch. I hate even looking at Obama Bin Ladin. He makes me want to puke.
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Precisely. Imagine a simple single beam balance scale and one's vote is a one pound weight. Your one pound placed on the right is a vote for Romney, one pound on the left is a vote for Obama. A vote for RP/Gary Johnson/George Jetson/anyone else who cannot win and issued by a conservative is a vote/pound taken from Romney and thrown in the trash can.
True.

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I get that Rabbi. But I don't agree with much of Romney's views either. I don't agree with him on Medicare. He lied about MA being number one in education. He threatens the 2A just as much as Obama. Defense NEEDS cuts.

And at the end of the day, its the house and senate that has the final say on what goes on. These two are just puppets. Therefore I do not and will not support the lesser of two evils.

He did well in the debates though.
Are you so obtuse to not realize that the president appoints supreme court justices? All of our pro 2A verdicts were a 5-4 split. The next president is probably going to appoint at least one of the "5" seats maybe more. Look what Barry already put there. Dont be a fool, look at the big picture.
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Cant wait to watch video in the morning, social security checks came out today so swamped at work and missed this.
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Saw one the other day that said "Obama bin Lyin". Thought it was pretty funny.
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Reminded me of the last klinton-reagan debate.

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I was wrong, I meant karter-reagan.
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Clinton-Reagan you say?

Awesome, just awesome. You are like Biden...or herpes. The gift that keeps giving.
Thanks for the laugh Rabbi.
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Reminded me of the last klinton-reagan debate.
Wait...what? Klinton / Reagan debate?
Oh man, you are truly living under a rock on Mars.
Who discovered you, Curiosity rover?
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Yes, that is were you vote goes but the implications are larger than that.

It is a vote that Romney doesnt get. No matter what mental gymnastics you use, your choice helps Obama.
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You can vote for the guy who has the best chance to beat Obama, vote for a non-viable third party, or cut out the middleman and vote for Obama.

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Precisely. Imagine a simple single beam balance scale and one's vote is a one pound weight. Your one pound placed on the right is a vote for Romney, one pound on the left is a vote for Obama. A vote for RP/Gary Johnson/George Jetson/anyone else who cannot win and issued by a conservative is a vote/pound taken from Romney and thrown in the trash can.
all were worth repeating
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Obama steadily deteriorated as the debate progressed. His mannerism betrayed his obvious anger and frustration at having anyone challenge him without his ability to cut the person off, as he typically does.

At one point Obama actually was reduced to begging Jim Lehrer to change the subject. Obama's entire demeanor was of a petulant adolescent who was getting a much-needed verbal thrashing and trying his best to smirk his way through the ordeal.

Romney strategically gained the upper hand by refusing to allow Lehrer to stifle his responses, a tactic all the uber-liberal moderators try to impose when their pet candidate's doing poorly. I look for the moderators of the next two debates to double down on their attempts to stifle Romney, given the mainstream media's massive collective psychological investment in Barack Obama.
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I'm going to vote for the guy who says he will sign a new Assault Weapons Ban if it is brought to him. MY president.
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Juan Williams on FNC thinks Obama won the debate.
It was funny to see him twisting and turning like a pretzel and claiming that everyone but him was wrong.
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If only one extra vote in every precinct in America went for GHW Bush in 1992 instead of Ross Perot Bill Clinton wouldn't have been elected president.

There might be times when someone wishes to make a point by throwing his/her vote away but 2012 is certainly not one of them.
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Obama steadily deteriorated as the debate progressed. His mannerism betrayed his obvious anger and frustration at having anyone challenge him without his ability to cut the person off, as he typically does.

At one point Obama actually was reduced to begging Jim Lehrer to change the subject. Obama's entire demeanor was of a petulant adolescent who was getting a much-needed verbal thrashing and trying his best to smirk his way through the ordeal.

Romney strategically gained the upper hand by refusing to allow Lehrer to stifle his responses, a tactic all the uber-liberal moderators try to impose when their pet candidate's doing poorly. I look for the moderators of the next two debates to double down on their attempts to stifle Romney, given the mainstream media's massive collective psychological investment in Barack Obama.
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CNN is about to interview a focus group of undecided voters to see how the debate has impacted their choice of candidate. This should be interesting.
That must be the group they had hooked up to the heart monitor that was on CNN the whole time.
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