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Old 10-03-2012, 07:33   #1
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What should the GOP do after a Romney loss?

As a spinoff of the other popular thread, what do some of the members here think the GOP should do to recover after a Romney loss?

...and what do you think they will do?

(Do NOT bother posting off topic things like "Romney will win" or "Obama will activate the FEMA Death Camps")

For example:

1) I think they SHOULD purge the vocal minority of social conservatives and the religious right and update the platform on social issues. Make them the wacky third party that everyone makes fun of instead of having a large amount of dissatisfied GOP party members who can't get on the same page policy-wise.

Most Americans are Moderate, with a slight left lean on social policies and slight right lean on fiscal policies. If you deliver a candidate who is a Leader and supports the beliefs of the American people, you have a very good shot at winning an election.

These last two go-arounds have not been "good shots."

2) I think they WILL analyze the areas of the Romney ticket that were weak/ didn't resonate and deliver another RINO in 2016. Maybe more left, maybe more right- they don't have a lot of qualified people to choose from within their ranks, so it will be who presents the least liability.
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:39   #2
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Most Americans are Moderate, with a slight left lean on social policies and slight right lean on fiscal policies.
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1) Conservative like me
2) losers
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:41   #3
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1) I think they SHOULD purge the vocal minority of social conservatives and the religious right and update the platform on social issues. Make them the wacky third party that everyone makes fun of instead of having a large amount of dissatisfied GOP party members who can't get on the same page policy-wise.
They should do this and I hope they will...but I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:47   #4
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How do you "purge" a political party? Do you know of a way you can throw people out?
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:52   #5
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They'll do the same thing they always do. Nothing for four years, then pick another useless candidate. If history is any indication the candidate for 2016 will be even worse.
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:52   #6
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How do you "purge" a political party? Do you know of a way you can throw people out?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestration



Please limit your responses to two bullets addressing the OP.

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Old 10-03-2012, 07:54   #7
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Stop trying to play to the middle. Force the country to make the decision between hard right or hard left. No more of this 0bama or 0bama Lite BS. Let's just settle it once and for all.
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:57   #8
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What a dumb thread, the vote hasn't even happened yet and you've counted Romney out, way to go. You must buy into everything the liberal media spins. He's not my first pick but I'd vote for one of my work boots before I'd vote for this current idiot. I can't hardly find anyone here, much less others that I talk to here in N.C, that are voting for the "chosen one".
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:27   #9
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Most Americans are Moderate, with a slight left lean on social policies and slight right lean on fiscal policies. If you deliver a candidate who is a Leader and supports the beliefs of the American people, you have a very good shot at winning an election.

These last two go-arounds have not been "good shots."

2) I think they WILL analyze the areas of the Romney ticket that were weak/ didn't resonate and deliver another RINO in 2016. Maybe more left, maybe more right- they don't have a lot of qualified people to choose from within their ranks, so it will be who presents the least liability.
Why do you care what happens to the GOP? You are a Democrat. And no, the Country is not left leaning.

Romney will win as Americans will think and vote.

If by some chance Obama wins, the 49% dependency class will grow to 60% so the Democrats will have a permanent captive voting block until the whole socialist system collapses then all bets are off.

If the Obama disaster continues, you will see, right or wrong-headed, a Populist Party of some sort either with the Republicans, Tea Party or under a new name.

If the current parties do not address our chronic $700B/year trade imbalance with the loss of manufacturing jobs and if they both ignore the immigration flood, a new populist party will form.

The Democrats have abandoned the private sector working man and is just the party of welfare and Government worker unions.

Good or bad, these forgotten folks are ripe for something new. Pray Romney wins and the economy improves soon.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:33   #10
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What should people do when making a political thread?

A. Post it in lounge
B. Dont post it
C. Post it in politial issues
D. Post in general firearms

hint: its b or c
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:38   #11
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What do I think they will do?

I think they will do the smart thing and start learning how to live/survive in a 3rd world country ahead of time if Romney loses. That way they are prepared when the Obamanation's 2nd term REALLY get's into full swing.

Hell, that's good advice for everyone, for that matter.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:42   #12
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I think, like I mentioned in the last thread, you had a McCain loss and if Romney loses, and they were both like you said RINO moderate republicans, there will be a serious hard core right wing backlash.

God help us, because the only way we can lose to Biden in 2016 is if the GOP puts up a mentally dense, Christian Taliban, Ultra Conservative ideolog as a presidential candidate.
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What a dumb thread, the vote hasn't even happened yet and you've counted Romney out, way to go. You must buy into everything the liberal media spins. He's not my first pick but I'd vote for one of my work boots before I'd vote for this current idiot".
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Romney will win as Americans will think and vote.



Pray Romney wins and the economy improves soon.

I like both of these quotes
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:57   #14
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Stop trying to play to the middle. Force the country to make the decision between hard right or hard left. No more of this 0bama or 0bama Lite BS. Let's just settle it once and for all.
OK... but seriously... you mean the opposite of that, right?

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Why do you care what happens to the GOP? You are a Democrat.
I'm not a Democrat. I'm a Republican.

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What should people do when making a political thread?

A. Post it in lounge
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C. Post it in politial issues
D. Post in general firearms

hint: its b or c
It's election season. The election is "General Discussion."

Nobody reads the sub forums anyway.

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God help us, because the only way we can lose to Biden in 2016 is if the GOP puts up a mentally dense, Christian Taliban, Ultra Conservative ideolog as a presidential candidate.
I think that:

1) 2016 will bring us our first female president in Hillary Clinton.

2) A move to pander to the Kookistani Taliban Patriots in 2016 will further alienate the mainstream Republicans and would trigger the collapse of the party (which is already happening slowly).
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:15   #15
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:16   #16
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D. Post in general firearms

hint: its b or c
Oh give the OP a break. He's obviously suffering from PTSD and/or is otherwise challenged.

I'm not going to respond to the OP by saying "Romney will win", but I sure am thinking it.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:21   #17
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Most people I know vote conservative BECAUSE of their beliefs on social issues.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:24   #18
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How do you "purge" a political party? Do you know of a way you can throw people out?

Let's see what was the order? Oh yeah! All teachers, scientists, and local party members to the back of the school at 18:30 ... bring a shovel.
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What should people do when making a political thread?

A. Post it in lounge
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C. Post it in politial issues
D. Post in general firearms

hint: its b or c
Oh no. You violated his response format rule...two bullet limit. No soup for you!
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Stop trying to play to the middle. Force the country to make the decision between hard right or hard left. No more of this 0bama or 0bama Lite BS. Let's just settle it once and for all.
You have to play towards the middle in order to win. I watched this game theory course and it explained it very well.

say you have this number line, 1 being very liberal, 10 being very conservative. And assume 1/10th the population is one of the numbers.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

If you have both sides play hard right and left, then you will have an even match. If you play hard right and they play moderate (5), they capture 1-5 as well as 6-7 because those numbers are closer to 5.

And again, that's assuming an even distribution, which it probably isn't. That's why everyone moves towards the middle.

If the Republicans lose... i dunno. I swear I'm not trying to be racist but they should find some half black/half Mexican guy. Or maybe just a Mexican guy. Or a women. But one who has the values of the party.
The regular conservatives will vote for him because he/she is conservative.
The black and mexican people will vote for him because he's their race. And this is past experience. 95% of black people are voting for Obama this election and probably the last. I wonder why?

Do you think they added Sarah Palin at the last moment, last time because of her brilliance and she was the very best to do the job?

I vote because of issues, but a lot of people don't. And to leave no one out, I guarantee there are at least a few white people who are voting for Romney because he's white. I think it's wrong but that's just the way it is. Either accept it like the democrats or lose again.

If you change too many values, even the social issues that I don't agree with, more of the conservative vote will vote libertarian while the rest vote republican, screwing that entire side over.

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I'm not sure I'm following the OP's reasoning. How will a purge of social conservatives help the GOP in the wake of a Romney loss? I don't think Romney is really the poster child of social conservatism.

If the argument is that "most" Americans lean left on social issues but lean right on fiscal issues, how does Romney not fit that bill? He's getting plenty of grief from the Right for being, among other things, too squishy on the social stuff.
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:13   #24
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You can't purge the social conservatives to win. This isn't our team against their team and you get to pick the players. The Republican party is supposed to be socially and fiscally conservative. There is already a party for the socially liberal and fiscally conservative - Libertarian. I think most people are libertarian but they still identify as R because it is the bigger party.

The Rs are screwing themselves by make issues out of crap and letting the more important stuff go. Gay marriage for example. Simple solution - government gets out of the religious marriage business and creates civil union with all the benefits and protections currently offered by marriage. Marriage moved to the church.

The R party has some great members but they get no coverage. Tom McClintock from my district for example is awesome.

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How do you "purge" a political party? Do you know of a way you can throw people out?
Joseph Stalin had some experience with political purges.
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