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Old 10-01-2012, 20:18   #251
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I think I will wait until after the debates to make that call.
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Old 10-01-2012, 20:18   #252
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Hooray for racism!

Damn! You bet me to it. I'm pretty sure this should be a violation of T.O.S.
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Old 10-01-2012, 20:21   #253
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It doesn't matter...the Dems have their act together, and the GOP is a complete mess. It's not hard to guess who will win.
Geez, the DNC is even on Glocktalk.
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Old 10-01-2012, 20:26   #254
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A lot of people understand that a very big part of the reason "many" people hate Obama is straight up racism, masquerading in public as conservatism.
There is always going to be racism. Calling people racist when they are not is just as bad.
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Old 10-01-2012, 20:27   #255
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Geez, the DNC is even on Glocktalk.
I'm as conservative as they come and I agree with that assessment. The democrats have a candidate that they can (still) get behind. Romney, at best, is a luke warm for republicans. He won't draw the middle and won't even draw a good turn out amongst the right base.

"We" are going to lose this election.
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Old 10-01-2012, 20:33   #256
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Geez, the DNC is even on Glocktalk.
You have no idea what you're talking about, especially when it comes to Tantrix.
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Old 10-01-2012, 20:58   #257
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Reagan had charisma and popularity. Romney does not. He might still win, but not like Reagan. The whole republican party still misses him.
Amen to that man, I wish I had a time machine and a cloning device....
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Old 10-01-2012, 21:10   #258
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Geez, the DNC is even on Glocktalk.
It doesn't make you a democrat to acknowledge that this is going to be a complete shutout...

The repubs have a joke candidate... Again.
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Old 10-01-2012, 21:20   #259
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Geez, the DNC is even on Glocktalk.
The DNC? You might want to do a search on my previous posts on this topic...you're not even remotely close.
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Old 10-01-2012, 21:41   #260
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You've got a candidate running that's only there because four -maybe five others primary challengers self destructed. How do you think it will play out?
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:10   #261
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A lot of people understand that a very big part of the reason "many" people hate Obama is straight up racism, masquerading in public as conservatism.
Sorry, wrong for most people.

The problem with Obama is not that he is Black; it’s that he is Red.

Conservatives would have voted lock-step for Herman Cain.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:20   #262
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A lot of people understand that a very big part of the reason "many" people hate Obama is straight up racism, masquerading in public as conservatism.
You just couldn't resist playing the card could you?
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:32   #263
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Reagan had charisma and popularity. Romney does not. He might still win, but not like Reagan. The whole republican party still misses him.
Reagan was “unelectable” until he was elected.

Reagan was bashed by the Media and the DEMs (same thing) just as Romney is today.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:40   #264
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It doesn't make you a democrat to acknowledge that this is going to be a complete shutout...

The repubs have a joke candidate... Again.
Keep saying it enough and you can get people to believe it. You sound like MSNBC talking points.

It would be fun to watch Obama win and wreck the economy and the Country, but I have to live here too.

If Obama wins, the American people will have buyer’s remorse, “What have we just done?”

A 2nd term and Obama will be the most despised President ever.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:48   #265
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i also believe romnney wins in a landslide.... the cost of electing a ""communism organizer"fraud-- 5.6 trillion dollars..... the cost of seeing him and his wife leaving the white house- PRICELESS!
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:57   #266
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Keep saying it enough and you can get people to believe it.
You mean get people to "believe" the facts?

Mittens must flip every undecided state on this map.

I'm not even sure he can get all of the ones that are Red...

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Old 10-02-2012, 07:02   #267
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A lot of people understand that a very big part of the reason "many" people hate Obama is straight up racism, masquerading in public as conservatism.
And, in the end, that's what liberals really think. They can't fathom people disagreeing with them on principal. It must be racism. Nothing else makes sense to them.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:07   #268
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If he can get the Evangelical vote out he has a great chance.

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This is why the republican party is such a mess. They win elections based on religion.
Unfortunately it is the same reason they lose a bunch of moderates.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:12   #269
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And, in the end, that's what liberals really think. They can't fathom people disagreeing with them on principal. It must be racism. Nothing else makes sense to them.
That's only true about this particular election, though.

And to a VERY large extent, what is sold as conservative vs liberal, is actually republican vs democrat. Wanting to use laws to enforce morality is not a conservative idea, that's a republican idea.

I think an actual conservative party would easily dominate.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:21   #270
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You mean get people to "believe" the facts?

Mittens must flip every undecided state on this map.

I'm not even sure he can get all of the ones that are Red...

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All this map shows is that Romney will have to run the table if he doesn't win Ohio, and I think Ohio is very much up for grabs. I think those undecided states are very much leaning Romney. Don't believe the polling data, polling has always been skewed against republicans, this is nothing new, it's that way to discourage you from voting and also to help with fundraising for the dem.

I cannot think of a single thing Obama has done that's been popular, have some faith in the American people.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:37   #271
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All this map shows is that Romney will have to run the table...
OK... "run the table"
"do one up"
"pull off a miracle"

However dramatically you want to phrase it, we're saying the same thing.

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I cannot think of a single thing Obama has done that's been popular, have some faith in the American people.
He's been KILLER on the war (pun intended) but his domestic policy sucks... I do like CCW in National Parks though.

I'm not a single issue voter on guns, but I would like to see the economy recover... it's going to be an interesting set of debates!
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:42   #272
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The media is leading people not to bother voting for Mitt because he is losing in the polls. Let's see....25 million NRA Members and 15 million Tea Party Members not counted yet! Here's a eye opening video how Obummer is letting China screw us!


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Old 10-02-2012, 07:49   #273
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You mean get people to "believe" the facts?

Mittens must flip every undecided state on this map.

I'm not even sure he can get all of the ones that are Red...

The Okie Corral
Wooaa, they have VA, NH and NC listed as undecided now

This is great news. Here is the deal, Obama will definately lose NH. He will also definately lose VA because of multiple factors including cuts in the military. Same with NC. Also since 2008 the recession has hit NV and CO hard. In Florida, Obama has lost a lot of the Jewish and Hispanic vote. Overall he is losing fans among the elderly and among young voters.

Here is the kicker. There are the states that are showing as blue that are in play.

Massachusetts - Romney is the Ex Governor of MA

PA - Big shakeup in the Philadelphia area with a Cerberus Captial Management saving thousands of oil refinery jobs in Phila and the suburb. That is why Ed Rendell, the ex-gov of PA and Democrat party big wig was telling Obama to STFU with his bad mouthing of venture capital companies like Bane. Also military spend cuts will affect Boeing Helicopter and Lochheed Martin which are based in the Philly suburbs. This is also the first presidential election with the new Voter ID law. Outside of the Philadelphia area, most rural people in PA vote republican while most people in the city of Philly will vote Democrat. You take the Philly suburbs, you take PA.

NJ - Chris Christie is slowly turning NJ voters to Republicans. The years of Democrat rule has really screwed up that state. I think its a real real long shot, but it could happen.

WI - Its like no one has noticed what has been going on in Wisconsin politics since 2010. You have the Scott Walker thing and Paul Ryan is a congressman from WI. WI is in play.

OH - Ohio is always in play, why in the heck are they showing it as Blue?

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Old 10-02-2012, 07:58   #274
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I think I will wait until after the debates to make that call.
If either Romney or Obama gets embarrassed at the debates it may put there presidential chances into a tailspin.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:59   #275
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If Mitt Romney loses because the RNC keeps putting up turd candidates, I'm sure half of GT will be blaming Ron Paul instead of the RNC leadership.

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