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Old 09-29-2012, 17:48   #126
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Of course Romney will lose, look at the state of the Republican party and it's constituents.

We have Republicans who won't vote because they don't think the candidate is worthy of their votes.

The only issues that we seem to care for are Gays, Abortions, and God.

In the 2008 election, the younger Republicans working for the campaign suggested to McCain that they utilize social media on internet. McCain the dinosaur refused. All the while Obammer used it to the fullest extent.

In the end, Democrats will vote Democrat regardless of what they think of their candidate. Just look at all the anti-abortion Catholics and Christians that continue to vote Democrat. Look at Senators Feinstein and Boxer, no one knows what they do or have done for the state of California but people will vote for them as long as they are democrats.
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Old 09-29-2012, 18:22   #127
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The only issues that we seem to care for are Gays, Abortions, and God.
...and I think they could gain a lot of viability by embracing American values and ending the Hate.

Hell... if they can't update the platform to reflect modern civilization, at least don't talk about it, or make the line, "pro status quo, no changes, no discussion."

The GOP has been in ruin for years. They must either push some folks out to make the third party, or risk becoming the third party.
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Old 09-29-2012, 18:24   #128
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...and I think they could gain a lot of viability by embracing American values and ending the Hate.

Hell... if they can't update the platform to reflect modern civilization, at least don't talk about it, or make the line, "pro status quo, no changes, no discussion."

The GOP has been in ruin for years. They must either push some folks out to make the third party, or risk becoming the third party.
I think their plan is to pick up the hispanic vote trough amnesties, and just stay the course.
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Old 09-29-2012, 18:42   #129
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I think Romney will win. I think people that are undecided aren't suddenly going to feel like the last four years were great. They might, however, suddenly realize that they've sucked.
Traditionally, the undecideds vote against the incumbent.
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Old 09-29-2012, 18:48   #130
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I think their plan is to pick up the hispanic vote trough amnesties, and just stay the course.
I don't believe there is a Hispanic vote for them.

Every time I question it someone says, "OMG... Miami!... blah blah... Cuba!"

That might be one guy and his familia, but seriously, I just don't see it...
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Old 09-29-2012, 18:56   #131
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The GOP has been in ruin for years. They must either push some folks out to make the third party, or risk becoming the third party.
Notice Liberals are always worrying about the GOP being in ruins.

We will be OK. Thanks for the concern.

If we lose what should be a blowout (well if not for media bias) maybe it is time for a new party.

How about The Social Democrats VS. The People’s Revolutionary Worker’s Party

We need a real choice.
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Old 09-29-2012, 18:56   #132
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With the exception of a really dishonest press backing him, I don't see HOW Obama can get re-elected.

A majority of the country has to walk into the polling booths and say, yeah, I want more of THIS!


Everything has gotten worse. Not a damn thing has gotten better. Nothing.

Gas is worse.

Unemployment is worse.

The economy in general is worse.

The state of the world and how we're viewed and treated is worse.

The stock market is up on heavily inflated dollars.

Our currency is becoming worthless (helping to keep gas high since they want more of it to make up for its devaluation.

Food prices are waaay up.

Our military is being gutted.

There is nothing on the event horizon save Zero getting un-elected that will fix things. And the taxamageddon coming Jan first along with obamacare is just gonna push us over the cliff.
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:00   #133
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Notice Liberals are always worrying about the GOP being in ruins.

We will be OK. Thanks for the concern.
The GOP has been in ruins for...YEARS.
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:02   #134
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Everything has gotten worse. Not a damn thing has gotten better. Nothing.
I'm no Obama fan, but I can think of one thing immediately: US military combat deaths. They're at the lowest point in many, many years.
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:17   #135
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I'm no Obama fan, but I can think of one thing immediately: US military combat deaths. They're at the lowest point in many, many years.
By projecting weakness, Obama is setting us up for many, many military deaths.

We had a peaceful period under Reagan because of his shoot-first-ask-questions-later cowboy image in the movies.

The world was terrified Reagan would start WWIII so our enemies behaved.

And as far as Reagan’s likeability versus Romney’s, Reagan was hated by the MSM.

They like him now that he is dead.
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:19   #136
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By projecting weakness, Obama is setting us up for many, many military deaths.

The world was terrified Reagan would start WWIII so our enemies behaved.
Funny how that works. The tard in the white house doesn't get it.
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:21   #137
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VOTE YOU MORONS!!!!!!! AND talk to everyone you Know and motivate them!!!
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:22   #138
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I'm no Obama fan, but I can think of one thing immediately: US military combat deaths. They're at the lowest point in many, many years.
Facts are not allowed in this thread. Only talking points are acceptable.

BTW, that's one of the best accomplishments of this administration.
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:23   #139
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VOTE YOU MORONS!!!!!!! AND talk to everyone you Know and motivate them!!!
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:25   #140
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:27   #141
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We had a peaceful period under Reagan because of his shoot-first-ask-questions-later cowboy image in the movies.
We had a peaceful period under Reagan because the Soviets were busy fighting the Afghans and the Iraqis were busy fighting the Iranians. The Chinese were busy trying not to starve to death. We were selling weapons to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. The world was a different place, and the other big superpower was busy falling apart. The Islamist rage was focused on them, since they were there.
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:31   #142
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We had a peaceful period under Reagan because the Soviets were busy fighting the Afghans and the Iraqis were busy fighting the Iranians. The Chinese were busy trying not to starve to death. We were selling weapons to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. The world was a different place, and the other big superpower was busy falling apart. The Islamist rage was focused on them, since they were there.
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:42   #143
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I don't believe there is a Hispanic vote for them.

Every time I question it someone says, "OMG... Miami!... blah blah... Cuba!"

That might be one guy and his familia, but seriously, I just don't see it...
You need to get out more Most of the Hispanics I know are very conservative family oriented and always vote republican
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:53   #144
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BTW, that's one of the only accomplishments of this administration.
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Old 09-29-2012, 19:55   #145
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We had a peaceful period under Reagan because the Soviets were busy fighting the Afghans and the Iraqis were busy fighting the Iranians. The Chinese were busy trying not to starve to death. We were selling weapons to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. The world was a different place, and the other big superpower was busy falling apart. The Islamist rage was focused on them, since they were there.
Reagan was the first President I voted for and was allowed to vote for. I lived through those times, remember them well and it was not as cut- and-dried as you paint it.

It was a very uncertain time. WWIII was a real possibility. If you asked me then what my odds were of making it to 2012, I would have put it at 30%.

And Obama is projecting weakness. That strange apology at the UN about an obscure video tape will go down in infamy.

Showing weakness will get us into a war. This emboldens our enemies causing them to misjudge us. Our enemies only understand and respect strength. We need to draw a line in the sand they know not to cross.
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Old 09-29-2012, 20:15   #147
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For years, I avoided politics like the plague. I finally realized that people like me who were disgusted and who didn't participate, let those clowns run this nation into the ditch.

I still hate politics and politicians but I am registered to vote against Obama and anyone who thinks like he does. I don't speak out or participate in discussions but folks like me will get to the polls and vote Obama out of office. I'm mad, totally fed up and I will vote!

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Old 09-29-2012, 20:18   #148
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The GOP has been in ruins for...YEARS.
We did OK in 2010; Gave Pelosi the boot. Now is our chance to fire Obama. We shall see. The Tea Party is the future of the GOP. The Tea Party is not going away.
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Old 09-29-2012, 20:22   #149
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We had a peaceful period under Reagan because the Soviets were busy fighting the Afghans and the Iraqis were busy fighting the Iranians. The Chinese were busy trying not to starve to death. We were selling weapons to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. The world was a different place, and the other big superpower was busy falling apart. The Islamist rage was focused on them, since they were there.
Ah! The good ole days!
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Old 09-29-2012, 20:29   #150
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After the past 4 years you would think that an unnamed "not Obama" candidate would have a decent chance of beating Obama, but I don't think Romney will pull it off.

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