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Old 09-28-2012, 12:14   #21
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I agree that a barrel stove will throw off incredible amounts of heat. I am not sure of the longevityof the barrels though. I know that when I was growing up we used 55 gallon barrels as trash burning barrels and they tended to last about a year before being used up. Not sure if indoor wood burning would last substantially longer or not.
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Old 09-28-2012, 20:36   #22
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Yeah, I've sat around more than a few barrel stoves in some hunting camps and I'll guarantee you one thing. They work fine. Maybe not the most asthetic stove you'll ever see. But you won't have a problem with the thing throwing off heat.

You don't need double walled pipe to make a stove safe any more than you need a push button safety on a lever action rifle to make it safe. Wood stoves existed in people's homes for hundreds of years before double walled pipe came out. You do need some common sense in terms of how and where you set up a stove with plain stove pipe. And you do need to maintain it to keep it free of creosote buildup.

But this is a viable option for emergency heat in you home and if you are a hillbilly it might be your only option.
If you could, please talk more about the single wall and the how and where part...

I only ask because I've heard a few people talk about trying it and the pipe burns through quite quickly.

Sure would save a ton of money if it could be done safely. The piping is really the expensive part!

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Old 09-28-2012, 20:38   #23
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I agree that a barrel stove will throw off incredible amounts of heat. I am not sure of the longevityof the barrels though. I know that when I was growing up we used 55 gallon barrels as trash burning barrels and they tended to last about a year before being used up. Not sure if indoor wood burning would last substantially longer or not.
I've seen them last 20+ years.

I'm not sure how your burn barrel was kept but most I've seen usually have thoroughly rusted within a short time because the bare steel is exposed to the elements year round.

Just my .02 on the issue and mind you, I've never tried one myself.

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Old 09-28-2012, 22:43   #24
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I've seen them last 20+ years.

I'm not sure how your burn barrel was kept but most I've seen usually have thoroughly rusted within a short time because the bare steel is exposed to the elements year round.

Just my .02 on the issue and mind you, I've never tried one myself.

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Yes, I suspect the elements was the big problem combined with the frequent hot heat of the burning. They were galvanized barrels, the ones that were not used for burning ( stored wire in some) never rusted.
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Old 09-29-2012, 14:22   #25
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Singe wall stove pipe works fine. You can't back the stove up to the wall if its stick frame/drywall construction. Need to give it a foot or more clearance. You can buy the standard stove pipe at any Tractor Supply etc. I think it comes in 3 or 4' lengths and there are 90 degree elbows and wll plates for transition through walls etc.

Like I said...use some common sense. Keep it clean and keep it away from things that burn Don't burn green wood or coniferous woods that create a lot of creosote.

Line the bottom of the stove with some fire brick or use some exapnded mesh to keep the fire off the bottom and it will last a lot longer. Firebricks are cheap but heavy.
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Old 09-29-2012, 18:41   #26
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Singe wall stove pipe works fine. You can't back the stove up to the wall if its stick frame/drywall construction. Need to give it a foot or more clearance. You can buy the standard stove pipe at any Tractor Supply etc. I think it comes in 3 or 4' lengths and there are 90 degree elbows and wll plates for transition through walls etc.

Like I said...use some common sense. Keep it clean and keep it away from things that burn Don't burn green wood or coniferous woods that create a lot of creosote.

Line the bottom of the stove with some fire brick or use some exapnded mesh to keep the fire off the bottom and it will last a lot longer. Firebricks are cheap but heavy.
Well all stoves have specific individual clearances. And usually the thimble prevents the pipe from touching/burning/ruining plaster/wood/drywall....

Modern stoves (EPA) are already lined with firebricks/ceramic. But the cheap Vogelzangs or the barrel kits...I've seem people say they line them with playground sand. That confuses me. How do you clean it without scooping out the sand?? Wouldn't the ash and sand mix??

But back to the pipe...if what you're saying is true, and I do plan to put my flame suit on and ask it over on the stove forum....that would be SUPER cheap to do!! I'm talking less than $200 for a stove and a chimney to heat an entire home!!

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Old 09-29-2012, 21:03   #27
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Yep, just lay the fire brick in the bottom. I know its curved. If play around with the placement it will work. They build round arches out of square bricks all the time.
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