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Old 07-28-2012, 17:52   #26
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My EDC "when in town." M1911 45acp.

Nothing but 230gr. In a JHP. WW PDX1, GD's bonded, XTP's.

Yes I like 230gr FMJ as well.







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Old 07-29-2012, 11:11   #27
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As my old Daddy said "use the biggest fastest bullet you can find and make sure its a hollow point".
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:36   #28
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My HD round of choice is a .45 ACP 230 gr. FMJ in a RIA 1911. It feeds, fires and ejects impeccably. POA is POI at 25 yds. Over penetration is not a concern as our house is about 150 yds. away from the next nearest neighbor. If I want to run JHP's I'll use a S&W 625-2 w/ Gold Dots, etc. But in all reality, I just don't think it will matter a great deal. A 230 gr. .45 bullet in the center of mass is going to rapidly lower the BP of a criminal. And once their BP goes through the floor, they will calm down very quickly.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:28   #29
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My HD round of choice is a .45 ACP 230 gr. FMJ in a RIA 1911. It feeds, fires and ejects impeccably. POA is POI at 25 yds. Over penetration is not a concern as our house is about 150 yds. away from the next nearest neighbor. If I want to run JHP's I'll use a S&W 625-2 w/ Gold Dots, etc. But in all reality, I just don't think it will matter a great deal. A 230 gr. .45 bullet in the center of mass is going to rapidly lower the BP of a criminal. And once their BP goes through the floor, they will calm down very quickly.
COnsider the very small hole even a 45 FMJ makes, you really are handicapping yourself using ball ammo when just about any JHP woul dbe better. The hole will be bigger & the BG BP will drop faster, both good things.
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Old 07-29-2012, 13:20   #30
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My HD round of choice is a .45 ACP 230 gr. FMJ in a RIA 1911. It feeds, fires and ejects impeccably. POA is POI at 25 yds. Over penetration is not a concern as our house is about 150 yds. away from the next nearest neighbor. If I want to run JHP's I'll use a S&W 625-2 w/ Gold Dots, etc. But in all reality, I just don't think it will matter a great deal. A 230 gr. .45 bullet in the center of mass is going to rapidly lower the BP of a criminal. And once their BP goes through the floor, they will calm down very quickly.
Perhaps you could use a JHP that would feed, fire, and eject impeccably if you went with a more reliable pistol?

I'll wager that a good 9mm JHP will perform better than .45 FMJ while holding more rounds, costing less, and being easier to shoot faster.
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Old 07-29-2012, 21:55   #31
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Federsl HST's 230gr all day!
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:03   #32
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Old 07-30-2012, 17:30   #33
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Federsl HST's 230gr all day!
+1 these suckers are man stoppers for sure.


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I'll second that. I think Mas knows a thing or two about these things.

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Perhaps you could use a JHP that would feed, fire, and eject impeccably if you went with a more reliable pistol?

I'll wager that a good 9mm JHP will perform better than .45 FMJ while holding more rounds, costing less, and being easier to shoot faster.
I agree again!

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Old 07-30-2012, 18:00   #36
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Old 08-03-2012, 13:52   #37
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I always tended to use 230 grain loads in my .45s, both CZ and Glock-then Dan Wesson.

Most of the posts on .45s will show the guys going with 230s, esp. Gold Dots.
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The newer designs like the FTX, HST and Tac-XP get some attention, but the FTX
is unproven and so is the Barnes X bullet as loaded by DT and others as the
TAC-XP, and DPX. I've never seen any HST, but know the Golden Sabers
are also a viable choice.



Just so little of a data base on them when the Gold Dots have a score of stopping
power results, which gives them a good reputation for the streets.


If I was to buy another .45 ACP I'd probably make it a Glock 36 as I really liked
how they felt and how slim and light it was. A Glock 30 SF or Gen 4 might get
the nod as well.

(I'm just in love with the .357 SIG- and am saving for a G33 at the moment.)

230 FMJ for practice and the 230 gr. Gold Dot, or DT 230 for carry.
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Just load and forget, really.

Even if it doesn't expand, it's still .45 caliber!
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Best of luck with finding a suitable load.
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Old 08-03-2012, 14:16   #38
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One advantage of standard 230 gr ammo is being able to train with 230 gr ball. FWIW
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Old 08-03-2012, 15:06   #39
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Place your shot & use a premium JHP and it really doesn't matter what gr.

I did a lot of gel testing with differen 45ACP/Super loads and for the most part until you start pushing hard into the super land, it doesn't really matter.

Find a premium JHP that you shoot well and test it with YOUR gun, and be happy.

As for me, I have a small pile of 185gr, 200gr, 230gr JHP bullets from Corbon, Federal and Winchester. ( I think I used up the Rem.) I use the 230gr+p mostly because it is quieter with the suppressor, but wouldn't feel under gunned with any of the above.



PS> For those that want ball ammo. It has great pen, but the JHP does more damage along the way. Given my option, I will go with the JHP. If I didn't have an option, I would want a flat point.
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