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06-09-2012, 15:01
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I thought it was just a myth....
I was asked by a couple of youth that I was citing for no seatbelt and drug paraphernalia if I could cite them when I wasn't wearing my hat. 
They said their high school teacher told them that they couldn't be cited if I was out of uniform. That and I had to have a search warrant to search their vehicle.
I almost let them go.
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06-09-2012, 15:10
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Their HS teacher can appear in the court on their behalf as an expert witness then. He's obviously well versed in police procedure.
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06-09-2012, 15:22
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Yet another reason why my wife and I homeschool our kids.
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06-09-2012, 16:52
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Had one tell me their driver ed teacher said it was okay to drive 5-10 over the posted speed.
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06-09-2012, 16:52
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We have a local college nearby where the students will tell us we don't have a right to enter without a warrant even when the situtation fits onw of the exceptions to the 4th Amendment.
Once I asked one of them where they heard that. Apparently it was a sociology prof who was telling them that. It reminded me of a sociology class where the prof said that Hitler siezed power in 1933. He was elected. Some people need to learn they need to teach within their expertise.
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Freakin' awsome!! Kickin it old school. Hot sheet on the dash. The report was probably only two sentences. Long live Rencko and Bobbie Hill!--WhiskeyT
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06-09-2012, 18:05
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Oh great....now we're going to see the mythbusters getting speeding tickets trying to debunk a myth.
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06-09-2012, 18:19
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Is that the college with a Black Panther terrorist and an avowed Marxist as tenured professors?
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06-09-2012, 22:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979
Yet another reason why my wife and I homeschool our kids.
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Indeed.
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06-09-2012, 22:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CAcop
We have a local college nearby where the students will tell us we don't have a right to enter without a warrant even when the situtation fits onw of the exceptions to the 4th Amendment.
Once I asked one of them where they heard that. Apparently it was a sociology prof who was telling them that. It reminded me of a sociology class where the prof said that Hitler siezed power in 1933. He was elected. Some people need to learn they need to teach within their expertise.
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I agree. It makes me wonder how much erroneous crap is being thrown at the students.
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06-09-2012, 22:27
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Originally Posted by Hack
I agree. It makes me wonder how much erroneous crap is being thrown at the students.
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The only thing I can remember being told is that the 2nd Amendment wasn't for the people, but for the National Guard and everyone else with a gun is committing treason.
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06-09-2012, 22:29
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Originally Posted by ateamer
Is that the college with a Black Panther terrorist and an avowed Marxist as tenured professors?
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Yes but the Black Panther retired. Even revolutionaries like to play shuffleboard.
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I wonder if your assessment of "The Wizard of Oz" would sound something like "A teenaged orphan runs away with three psychotic AD/HD patients and a little dog. She kills the first two women she meets." --Sinecure 07/03/2006
Freakin' awsome!! Kickin it old school. Hot sheet on the dash. The report was probably only two sentences. Long live Rencko and Bobbie Hill!--WhiskeyT
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06-09-2012, 22:31
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Originally Posted by Gun Shark
The only thing I can remember being told is that the 2nd Amendment wasn't for the people, but for the National Guard and everyone else with a gun is committing treason.
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On a side note I like how all the "the second amendment is for the national guard" people also say police should have guns too. Since when have I been in the national guard?
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I wonder if your assessment of "The Wizard of Oz" would sound something like "A teenaged orphan runs away with three psychotic AD/HD patients and a little dog. She kills the first two women she meets." --Sinecure 07/03/2006
Freakin' awsome!! Kickin it old school. Hot sheet on the dash. The report was probably only two sentences. Long live Rencko and Bobbie Hill!--WhiskeyT
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06-10-2012, 00:40
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Originally Posted by CAcop
Apparently it was a sociology prof who was telling them that. Some people need to learn they need to teach within their expertise.
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Them than can, do...and them that can't, teach.
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06-10-2012, 01:27
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It makes me wonder how much erroneous crap is being thrown at the students.
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Volumes. Epic level quantity, sometimes.
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06-10-2012, 02:58
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Juris Glocktor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CAcop
On a side note I like how all the "the second amendment is for the national guard" people also say police should have guns too. Since when have I been in the national guard?
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Easiest way to ask it, if the Bill of Rights protect the individual, as the Founders intended, why would they insert a collective state right in the 2nd Amendment, right between every other right that protects the individual?
That is, the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 1/2 of the 10th Amendments protect the individual, and the 2nd is not?
Yet, the plain wording of the operative phrase is the Right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms?
These liberal professors really turn off their brain when teaching sometimes.
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06-10-2012, 04:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mntrpr
I was asked by a couple of youth that I was citing for no seatbelt and drug paraphernalia...
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You guys write tickets because kids have no drug paraphernalia ? 
You are tough.
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06-10-2012, 05:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CAcop
Yes but the Black Panther retired. Even revolutionaries like to play shuffleboard.
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This just had to be quoted, at LEAST once. 
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06-10-2012, 06:06
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Originally Posted by Morris
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A lot of it these days seems to come from the companies that produce text books wanting to write their own versions of events, ideas and whatnot.
Several of my favorite HS teachers taught from old books that they purchased with their own money and kept for the class to use.
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If you're wearing a hat to a funeral, acceptable. If you're wearing a campaign hat or blues clues hat at any other time on duty, you look like a giant, walking Lexington Steele member with a badge and gun on. 
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06-10-2012, 06:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck54
Had one tell me their driver ed teacher said it was okay to drive 5-10 over the posted speed.
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Are you really citing people for that?
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06-10-2012, 06:43
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I believe the 4A does say something about, in addition to all that other carp, agents acting on behalf of the government must be "properly attired..."
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There are at least two sides to every story. I just heard yours and, indeed, you appear to be the victim. But I can't stop wondering what the other side has to say. :dunno:
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06-10-2012, 07:23
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A local HS teacher told her students that the County Deputies could not write traffic tickets?? She found out the next week how wrong she was rolling through a stop sign!!
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06-10-2012, 08:07
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Someone started a rumor years ago that my agency could only write tickets on one side of this State Hwy. So I can sit on one side and people coming the other way see me and wave as they drive by at 70mph just before they get a ticket. And yes, it is clearly marked with Speed Limit signs and ******* City Limits.
The only ones I can symphasize with are the ones that think once they see a speed limit sign that's when they can speed up but in TN the zone starts at the sign.
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06-10-2012, 09:25
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Originally Posted by Schaffer
Are you really citing people for that?
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Depends on how close it is to the end of the month. I gotta at least get close to my quota so I can get s new pair of jackboots. Cant be a jackbooted thug without the right boots.
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06-10-2012, 09:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RocPO
Depends on how close it is to the end of the month. I gotta at least get close to my quota so I can get s new pair of jackboots. Cant be a jackbooted thug without the right boots.
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The boots make the thug, after all....... 
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06-10-2012, 09:48
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Juris Glocktor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RocPO
Depends on how close it is to the end of the month. I gotta at least get close to my quota so I can get s new pair of jackboots. Cant be a jackbooted thug without the right boots.
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You get boots? We only get a set of steak knives.
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Cool story, bro... when do you get to the part where you shut up and walk away from me?
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