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Old 06-03-2012, 10:51   #1
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Tell me about this AK.........

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=284022281

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Arsenal SLR-107F.......should I do it? I'm AMAZED at how cheap 1000 rounds costs.......would this be a decent AK to start out with, and do I really have to dunk it in soapy water after shooting ammo like this-

http://www.sgammo.com/product/tula/1...-fmj-tula-ammo
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:04   #2
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Wrong forum. Get that commie trash out of here.

Yes, excellent rifle. I have the same one in 7.62. Yes, a water bath is good after corrosive ammo.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:13   #3
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Tula ammo is not corrosive. Just clean as usual.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:16   #4
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Go for it, I have a Sam-5 and I love it. These aren't getting any cheaper either....

A nice alternative that is cheaper is the FEG AMD-65s that are going for ~425.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:16   #5
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Great rifle, stay away from Tula ammo. Pure crap. Hard primers.

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Old 06-03-2012, 12:08   #6
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Post this in the kalash forum.

Good rifle.

For non corrosive 7.62x39mm steel cased ammo my preference is golden tiger, brown bear, and uly in that order all FMJ. No need to water bath to get the corrosive salts. Although corrosive ammo is no big deal if you take 5 mins to clean. It is usually more accurate.

Skip Tula unless it is your only option.
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Old 06-03-2012, 13:30   #7
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Fine gun. Tula works great in AK's. Non corrosive, so no special cleaning.
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Old 06-03-2012, 14:26   #8
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Wrong forum. Get that commie trash out of here.
What he said...
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Old 06-03-2012, 14:45   #9
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well they are well made rifles, but I wouldn't spend a grand on a 7.62x39. Truth be told you could get a very good 47 for half that. A cheap AK will do anything that rifle will do, provided you stay away from anything made in the USA that's not arsenal.
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Old 06-03-2012, 15:26   #10
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Fine gun. Tula works great in AK's. Non corrosive, so no special cleaning.
This. TulAmmo is absolute garbage for everything but AK rifles. I have yet to have a single issue with it in any of my AKs. It isn't corrosive, but it's a little more expensive than the corrosive surplus.
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Old 06-03-2012, 16:13   #11
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Well it IS a black rifle...

I've had good luck with TULammo. Don't expect an accuracy advantage with it though.
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Old 06-03-2012, 16:16   #12
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Why is that thing so expensive? I have seen other really nice AKs for almost half the price.
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Old 06-03-2012, 18:33   #13
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This. TulAmmo is absolute garbage for everything but AK rifles. I have yet to have a single issue with it in any of my AKs. It isn't corrosive, but it's a little more expensive than the corrosive surplus.
What kind of problems should one look for when using Tula in an AR?
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Old 06-03-2012, 18:41   #14
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What kind of problems should one look for when using Tula in an AR?
Typical problems from Tula are short stroking(bolt comes back far enough to eject, but not far enough to load another round - either slams closed on an empty chamber, or hangs up when stripping the next round from the mag), poor accuracy, and leaving the chamber and bolt areas VERY dirty. Plus, steel case has its own set of issues with causing dirty chambers.
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Old 06-03-2012, 22:07   #15
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Typical problems from Tula are short stroking(bolt comes back far enough to eject, but not far enough to load another round - either slams closed on an empty chamber, or hangs up when stripping the next round from the mag), poor accuracy, and leaving the chamber and bolt areas VERY dirty. Plus, steel case has its own set of issues with causing dirty chambers.
This pretty much sums it up for an AR-15.

Most AK's are very over-gassed, so the weak part isn't as big of a deal. The AK gas system and loose tolerances allow for more fudge room when it comes to the dirt (and it is indeed very dirty). It's practice ammo for an AK, so all it needs to deliver is practical accuracy for training (which it does fine). The AK was designed around this kind of ammo, so it works in them pretty well.
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:32   #16
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I love my SLR107F. I ran a few hundred rounds of Brown Bear through it yesterday. It's accurate and a smile machine!

Don't get hung up on price. It's a great rifle.

I got mine from Atlantic with free shipping for $975.

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Old 06-04-2012, 08:04   #17
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I picked up a 107 Series Arsenal recently, and I love it. Mine is the SLR-107CR, and my Form 1 goes in the mail today as I will be doing the SBR treatment on it as soon as my stamp gets here. There's just something about a 7.62x39mm AK with a 12.5" barrel and an AK-100 series side folder that appeals to me.

I'd say you could hardly go wrong by buying that rifle. An Arsenal AK is like a Colt AR... They hold their value well in the event you decide you don't like it. As for the SLR series Arsenal's... Many hold them in higher regard than the Saiga SGL series that Arsenal also sells.
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:33   #18
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Put me down for "DO IT!!!" You can't go wrong with the SLR rifles, they're great.
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Old 06-04-2012, 13:45   #19
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Great rifle, stay away from Tula ammo. Pure crap. Hard primers.

i have fired thousands of rounds thru my arsenal sgl-21 and havent had a single failure of any sort. accuracy is good enough for me, im hitting soda cans at 50+ yds, and pie tins at 100+ yds which is good enough for my AK. it still shoots better than i do with tula.

i must be getting lucky and get the "good" 1000rd cases.
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Old 06-05-2012, 16:11   #20
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I have that rifle and I think I paid a little over 800 for it about 1 1/2 years ago. I love it. You can watch it go up in 1 1/2 more years, or you can just get it. As AK's go, you will not be wanting a better rifle. If you buy less, you may be wondering...

With an Ultimak and red dot, I can hit small Larue targets at 500 yds most of the time and 250 yds it is hard to miss. I get better accuracy from my AR, but only the 7.62 will knock the 250's down.

The side folder is worth a small premium in my opnion, it is a great stock.

I skipped the side rail option as I knew I wanted the ultimak, but getting one with it makes it a little more versatile I guess.

Arsenal finishes suck. If it starts to rust some day, I'll care enough to paint it. The stock sling works but aftermarket is better.

There are other AKs on the market and some of them are good as well. I really think all AKs are overpriced, but the demand is there, so you have to pay to play
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You can get cheaper ammo for the 5.45x39s, and I am interested in adding one some day butlike the 7.62 for the penetration and I think it makes more sense as a first AK.

Ibought this telling myself I wanted to understand the rifle and be more of a student of it. In reality this rifle made me take a long hard look at what I really needed in a weapon, and the answer is that it will do everything I need it to, and in some ways, it will do them better than an AR.
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Old 06-05-2012, 19:15   #21
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Great rifle. You get the coolness and ease of carrying a side folder with the comfort of shooting a fixed stock as opposed to under folders and side folding wire stocks. I own a wire and under folder and love them both but they aren't to comfortable to shoot. That rifle will be a joy to shoot and carry.

And if you don't buy it we'll require forfeiture of your man card.
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Old 06-05-2012, 20:01   #22
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Just an FYI, we have the Arsenal SLR107-21 on sale this week for $929.00

Also glocktalk members get free shipping!
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:27   #23
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Just an FYI, we have the Arsenal SLR107-21 on sale this week for $929.00

Also glocktalk members get free shipping!
If I wanted one of these, I'd take this deal. Every batch of imports seems to go up by $100 every time.
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Old 06-06-2012, 14:11   #24
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Thats a very nice AK, I have the Saiga converted. I would say get it for sure.
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Old 06-06-2012, 17:29   #25
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I have the same model, well built gun, and that ammo is not corrosive, so no bath.
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