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Old 06-02-2012, 23:46   #1
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Debt Up $1.59T Under GOP House

Way to go, Boehner!
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The Republican-controlled House of Representatives, which took office in January 2011, has enacted federal spending bills under which the national debt has increased more in less than one term of Congress than in the first 97 Congresses combined.

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Old 06-02-2012, 23:53   #2
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Rep. Dem., two sides of the same coin.
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Old 06-02-2012, 23:56   #3
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It's good to see the Tea Party kicking ass and taking names. They've really struck fear into the hearts of those establishment types.
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Old 06-03-2012, 00:02   #4
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debts up like 5 trillion with obama so no room to talk
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This is what happens when the .gov operates w/out a budget and gets by with Continuing Resolutions. There's really no excuse.
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:50   #6
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am i missing something? the senate hasn't passed a new buget in what 3 or 4 years. they are just running on the old budget over and over. no budget this house pass's gets by the senate or the president, so were blaming them?

no doubt that between 2001 to 2007 rep. spent like drunking fools. but the bail outs and huge debt came after the dem's regained the house and senate agian. the sad part is that bush went along with the bail outs.
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Rep. Dem., two sides of the same coin.
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This is what happens when the .gov operates w/out a budget and gets by with Continuing Resolutions. There's really no excuse.
This s correct.

Continuing resolutions since Obama has been in office and the Dems held both House and Senate.

The Republicans have submitted a debt reducing budget proposal every year. It is the Democrats in the Senate (a.k.a. Harry Reid) who stop the budget effort. Obama does nothing but contribute to the problem with budget proposals that neither party supports - zero votes in support.

The linked article is jaded and partisan.
Blaming the Republicans for Democrat continuing spending when Democrats have been the roadblock and continue to add trillions in debt to China is ludicrous.

Conservatives, you are being duped if you believe this hack trash piece.

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This s correct.

Continuing resolutions since Obama has been in office and the Dems held both House and Senate.

The Republicans have submitted a debt reducing budget proposal every year. It is the Democrats in the Senate (a.k.a. Harry Reid) who stop the budget effort. Obama does nothing but contribute to the problem with budget proposals that neither party supports - zero votes in support.

The linked article is jaded and partisan.
Blaming the Republicans for Democrat continuing spending when Democrats have been the roadblock and continue to add trillions in debt to China is ludicrous.

Conservatives, you are being duped if you believe this hack trash piece.
Two words: Debt Ceiling
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:34   #10
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Two words: Debt Ceiling
.... and enforcing it !

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.... and enforcing it !

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My point
Well the last one was Kabuki theater ......

Giving the dims an effective veto was stupid ...

Of course they were gonna use it .....

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Two words: Debt Ceiling
Our uninformed American voting public, half of which receive a .govt check in some fashion or another, are quick to believe that Republicans are throwing grandma over the cliff in a wheelchair or starving children in schools when the Dems demagogue them for trying to enforce a debt ceiling.

Republicans paid a heavy political price in the 1990's for taking a fiscal responsible stand.

Personally, I think, with so many people on the .govt dole squabbling over borrowed Chinese money and whatever "entitlements" they feel are now a gov't "right", that the system is doomed to currency collapse. The only thing that has propped it up this long has been the even worse performance of the Euro.

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Personally, I think, with so many people on the .govt dole squabbling over borrowed Chinese money and whatever "entitlements" they feel are now a gov't "right", that the system is doomed to currency collapse. The only thing that has propped it up this long has been the even worse performance of the Euro.
I don't care if their house of cards collapses..... I just don't want them taking me with them .....

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Old 06-03-2012, 08:03   #15
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This s correct.

Continuing resolutions since Obama has been in office and the Dems held both House and Senate.

The Republicans have submitted a debt reducing budget proposal every year. It is the Democrats in the Senate (a.k.a. Harry Reid) who stop the budget effort. Obama does nothing but contribute to the problem with budget proposals that neither party supports - zero votes in support.

The linked article is jaded and partisan.
Blaming the Republicans for Democrat continuing spending when Democrats have been the roadblock and continue to add trillions in debt to China is ludicrous.

Conservatives, you are being duped if you believe this hack trash piece.
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Our uninformed American voting public, half of which receive a .govt check in some fashion or another, are quick to believe that Republicans are throwing grandma over the cliff in a wheelchair or starving children in schools when the Dems demagogue them for trying to enforce a debt ceiling.

Republicans paid a heavy political price in the 1990's for taking a fiscal responsible stand.

Personally, I think, with so many people on the .govt dole squabbling over borrowed Chinese money and whatever "entitlements" they feel are now a gov't "right", that the system is doomed to currency collapse. The only thing that has propped it up this long has been the even worse performance of the Euro.
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:08   #16
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Our uninformed American voting public, half of which receive a .govt check in some fashion or another, are quick to believe that Republicans are throwing grandma over the cliff in a wheelchair or starving children in schools when the Dems demagogue them for trying to enforce a debt ceiling.

Republicans paid a heavy political price in the 1990's for taking a fiscal responsible stand.

Personally, I think, with so many people on the .govt dole squabbling over borrowed Chinese money and whatever "entitlements" they feel are now a gov't "right", that the system is doomed to currency collapse. The only thing that has propped it up this long has been the even worse performance of the Euro.
I wonder what price they will pay for not having the spine to take a stand against fiscal irresponsibility?
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Our uninformed American voting public, half of which receive a .govt check in some fashion or another, are quick to believe that Republicans are throwing grandma over the cliff in a wheelchair or starving children in schools when the Dems demagogue them for trying to enforce a debt ceiling.

Republicans paid a heavy political price in the 1990's for taking a fiscal responsible stand.

Personally, I think, with so many people on the .govt dole squabbling over borrowed Chinese money and whatever "entitlements" they feel are now a gov't "right", that the system is doomed to currency collapse. The only thing that has propped it up this long has been the even worse performance of the Euro.
Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security

Since neither party will touch them, and even 'conservatives' here will defend them, it sounds like you're basically saying there is no difference between the reps and the dems

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yada yada yada

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Old 06-03-2012, 10:11   #19
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am i missing something? the senate hasn't passed a new buget in what 3 or 4 years. they are just running on the old budget over and over. no budget this house pass's gets by the senate or the president, so were blaming them?

no doubt that between 2001 to 2007 rep. spent like drunking fools. but the bail outs and huge debt came after the dem's regained the house and senate agian. the sad part is that bush went along with the bail outs.
This sounds a lot like Obama does when he blames Bush for everything he's failing at. If you're going to accept that argument, you have to accept Obama's too.

The bottom line is that the House can stop the spending. Will it take some backbone? Yes. Will it take a high degree of political skill? Yes. So why are these guys even in there if they have neither?
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Two words: Debt Ceiling
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership . Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit."
Then Senator, Barack Obama, March 16, 2006
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The other thing about Continuing Resolutions is that we kind of don't really know what is and what is not getting funded.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:14   #22
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Without cutting social security, medicaid and medicare this country is screwed, the budget can't be balanced with tax increases and small cuts.
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Since the left loves debtor spending so much you'd think they would be loving this Republican House. Can't have it both ways, lefties.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:26   #24
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someone needs to cut the budget and just deal with the *****ing and only get 4 years. But the his party needs the house and senate to do that.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:31   #25
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Since the left loves debtor spending so much you'd think they would be loving this Republican House. Can't have it both ways, lefties.
They can have it both ways, and Republicans keep giving that option by saying one thing and doing another. Democrats then get the option of attacking them on what they're saying or on what they're doing, whichever suits them at the time.

If Republicans did what they said they'd do, at least they'd give the Dems only one avenue of attack. They're gonna get attacked either way, so why not just do what they say they will? The only explanation is that doing what's right for the country isn't important enough to them. They would rather sell out, on the misguided belief that they will get attacked less for doing so.

ETA: Actually, that's not the only explanation. Another is that once they get in, they discover how lucrative it is for their own wealth to just play along.

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