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Old 05-16-2012, 07:50   #1
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New York City Self Defense Weapon


My fiance and I are moving to New York City next year so that she can go to law school at NYU. I've done the research on getting a permit for a rifle/shotgun, and here are the parameters...

No folding/telescopic stock or no stock
No Pistol Grip that protrudes below the action
Flash suppressor or threaded barrel to accomodate it
Barrel shroud
(There's more, but they make sense- Assault weapons ban stuff- Grenade launchers, etc)

And there's a whole list of prohibited weapons..
ALL AK-47s & All AR-15s
Armalite AR-180
Australian LIAIA & 223SAC
Beretta AR-70, BM-59
Beretta Light 50, 82AL
Calico M-900, M-100
Daewoo Max 1 & 2
DMAX C90, C100, C450
Dragunov Sniper Rifle
Encom, MK-1V
Fabrique FN/FAL, LAR, FNC
Fal Type 1-2-4
Famas Maas-223
Feather AT-9 & AT-22
Federal Eng. Corp XC 220,450, 900 A.C.
Franchi Law Spas 12
Goncz High Tech Carbine
Heckler & Koch 91, 93, 94
Israeli All UZIs
Iver Johnson PM 30P
Norinco NMD86 Sniper Rifle
Polytech Ind. M-14s
PSG-1 rifles G3, SA
Ruger Mini 14/5F
SIG 57 AMT & PE-57, BM-59
SIG 550, 551 S.P.
Springfield BM-59, SAR 48&58 &3, M-1A
Sterling MK-6
Steyr Daimler Pusch AUG-SA
Valmet Corp. M-76, 78 SA
Weaver Arms Corp. Nighthawk

So, Mr.Ayoob.... what , if anything. do you suggest? I'd hate to be entirely disarmed.

Thanks in advance,
Think you used enough dynamite there, Butch?
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Old 05-16-2012, 18:59   #2
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For an HD gun in a densely populated urban city, in your situation, I'd just go with a good 20" barrel shotgun with locally-legal-length magazine tube. You didn't mention your lady's size or experience, but a 20 gauge with #3 buckshot is something I'd be comfortable with, and we've found it much more amenable to new shooters and smaller-statured shooters than the traditional 12 gauge. We've also found that the short-stocked "youth models" fit shorter people with shorter arms much better than full size, and pose no real problem to larger shooters.

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