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Old 05-07-2012, 10:29   #1
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New 9MM Glocker

Hi! I am from Wichita, KS. Just bought my first gun. A new Gen4 19! Put 45 rounds through it last night. New gun plus new shooter period so I got some practicing to do before I am ready to carry... I was at least hitting a 10" x 10" ceiling tile from ten yards. Need to work on my cleaning up my grip because I had a few fliers...

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Old 05-07-2012, 10:32   #2
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:43   #3
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As far as the grip goes, I found myself missing the 10"by 10" target entirely when I aimed dead center from a half Micheal Jordan Leap away. I have heard of snap caps how do they work and how can they help me clean up my hand movement ( make it go away) when pulling the trigger?
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:49   #4
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Good looking rig. I am new to the Glock thing and having a ton of fun with mine. Welcome and congratulations.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:59   #5
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Thanks! I wanted to get one the day I turned 21. I'm only two years late, oh well...

I think my hands are too big making me have to curl my trigger finger too much. Going to try the GEN4 backstraps...
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:22   #6
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:39   #8
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As far as the grip goes, I found myself missing the 10"by 10" target entirely when I aimed dead center from a half Micheal Jordan Leap away. I have heard of snap caps how do they work and how can they help me clean up my hand movement ( make it go away) when pulling the trigger?
The snap caps are dummy rounds, so your firing pin has something to hit (to protect it). You can also dryfire with an empty chamber (there is debate as to which guns that is ok with). Glock obviously allows dryfire to clean the gun (it is in the manual).

Your mind knows recoil is coming. Dryfiring or snap caps allow you to practise trigger pull and holding steady, without having to worry about recoil.

Always keep pointed in a safe direction, even during dryfiring. Some people dryfire so much that they forget to unload (seriously). I like a mental break of checking 3 times that the gun is empty before dryfiring.

The real key to accuracy, in my opinion, is a surprise break. Hold gun steady, align sights, hold sights on target. All that done with one half of your brain. The other half of your brain begins a slow and steady trigger pull. So slow, for learning purposes, that you don't know when the gun will fire. Take 30 seconds to pull the trigger completely from when you begin starting the pull. Slowly, ever so slowly, pressure builds, but when exactly will the pressure in the trigger break and the gun go BOOM? You do not exactly want to know. Later you speed things up, but you still don't want to know exactly when it will fire. That is the basis of the surprise break. If your mind doesn't know exactly when the BOOM is, then you won't flinch.

Put a dummy round in the middle of your mag, and when you get to it and the gun goes "click", did the sights move, or did they hold steady? Someone watching you would be able to tell for sure.

Sitting at a bench is helpful for learning to pull the trigger, because you don't get tired holding the gun. A .22 handgun is good for learning too, because you are less likely to flinch from the recoil.

A dummy round in your mag, and someone watching you (neato if on video) can tell you if you are holding the gun steady when it goes click. It should hold just as steady as when you are dryfiring. If it doesn't hold steady? Why is that? Flinch Various forms of flinch, such as anticipating, bracing, tension, lots of stuff going on just before your mind expects the BOOM. Stuff that doesn't happen when your mind knows the gun is just going to be dryfired.

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I went to all the stores here in wichita, and many pawn shops, to get a feel for what the local market price is bearing on new glocks right now. (about $585 everywhere in town, yuk!) One of the places I checked, Cabelas, had the FDE and it surprised me. I had not seen it before . I asked them to price match but they only wanted to match the black ones since they kinda knew they had the only FDE in town. In the end I talked them to 599 and I had a $20 Cabelas credit...

I did find a pawn shop near me that the owner was willing to cut me a good deal but he couldn't get FDE due to sold-out-ification.

Short story long I got my FDE gen4 for a little less than the going local rate. And a free hat.

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The snap caps are dummy rounds, so your firing pin has something to hit (to protect it). You can also dryfire with an empty chamber (there is debate as to which guns that is ok with). Glock obviously allows dryfire to clean the gun (it is in the manual).

Your mind knows recoil is coming. Dryfiring or snap caps allow you to practise trigger pull and holding steady, without having to worry about recoil.

Always keep pointed in a safe direction, even during dryfiring. Some people dryfire so much that they forget to unload (seriously). I like a mental break of checking 3 times that the gun is empty before dryfiring.

The real key to accuracy, in my opinion, is a surprise break. Hold gun steady, align sights, hold sights on target. All that done with one half of your brain. The other half of your brain begins a slow and steady trigger pull. So slow, for learning purposes, that you don't know when the gun will fire. Take 30 seconds to pull the trigger completely from when you begin starting the pull. Slowly, ever so slowly, pressure builds, but when exactly will the pressure in the trigger break and the go BOOM? You do not exactly want to know. Later you speed things up, but you still don't want to know exactly when it will fire. That is the basis of the surprise break. If your mind doesn't know exactly when the BOOM is, then you won't flinch.

Put a dummy round in the middle of your mag, and when you get to it and the gun goes "click", did the sights move, or did they hold steady? Someone watching you would be able to tell for sure.

Sitting at a bench is helpful for learning to pull the trigger, because you don't get tired holding the gun. A .22 handgun is good for learning too, because you are less likely to flinch from the recoil.

A dummy round in your mag, and someone watching you (neato if on video) can tell you if you are holding the gun steady when it goes click. It should hold just as steady as when you are dryfiring. If it doesn't hold steady? Why is that? Flinch Various forms of flinch, such as anticipating, bracing, tension, lots of stuff going on just before your mind expects the BOOM. Stuff that doesn't happen when your mind knows the gun is just going to be dryfired.

Ooh! lots of help, thanks! I'll practice surprise break both dry fire and live and pick up some snap caps to test if I retain my dry fire practice when I start putting holes in cardboard. Thats a good tip!
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I have a video clip of my very first few shots
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I have a video clip of my very first few shots
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Doesn't look like your first time with a handgun.

The glasses aren't protecting your eyes up there

The re-gripping is normal until you get used to a grip. If you are not happy with your accuracy, you'll want to slow things way down to work on it. You do appear to brace the moment before each shot.

Pretty good overall
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I forgot those were there. Dumb. Next time I will bring my clear pair so when it gets cloudy i wont be tempted to remove them.

Ive been practicing dry firing every night. I think i fixed the grip awkwardness (regrip in the vid) by adding the large backstrap.
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Starting to see some improvement over the last few days. Been practicing dry firing for 30 minutes every night.
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What do you think? One week of practice so far:

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7 yards five round group
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Pretty good! Is that fast or slow?
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