[Jitterbug]

After having attempted to load up a viable self defense load for a 2" .38 Special, I have to say I'm pretty impressed with that 158 XTP, finding ANY bullet that will expand at 2" .38 Special velocity is a challenge.

The 147 grain XTP for the .357 Sig is also impressive, I wonder if it's the exact same bullet available for the 9mm, I'll have to check into that some more, looking at the Hornady website I'd have to guess it is in fact the exact same bullet. At short barreled 9mm velocity it may not do as well.

I can't recall the 155 grain 10mm XTP results that have been obtained in some of the backyard testing done in this forum, but it may well be worth looking into as an "available" 10mm bullet for a self defense load on the streets.

One of the most impressive attributes of the Hornady XTP line is it's availability and price point.

Good luck on finding your Gold dots.

To the OP I'd feel pretty good about either the factory Winchester 175 grain Silver Tip or the Underwood 180 grain Gold Dot for your needs. The factory Hornady loads are no doubt good loads but we know they run a bit on the slow side for 10mm.

[swinokur]

Good luck on finding your Gold dots.Underwood ammo sells 10mm GD's.

you said Underwood has them. What's the problem finding them?

http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto.aspx

[1911ES]

Gold Dots... work just fine in my 9mm and .45 .....

But also have Winchester Ranger and Hornady Critical Defense FTX.

[Jitterbug]

Underwood may have them at the moment, but as a component for the hand loader they can be difficult to find.

Stock up when you can.

[swinokur]

gotcha

[gofastman]

The 147 grain XTP for the .357 Sig is also impressive, I wonder if it's the exact same bullet available for the 9mm, I'll have to check into that some more, looking at the Hornady website I'd have to guess it is in fact the exact same bullet.

I'd wager it is.

On the XTP's look at what Hornady claims as operating vel for the bullets...

200G is 1300 fps but the 180 is 1600 fps... Thats a tough bullet to provide expected performance at 1600 fps!!!

http://www.helmuthofmann.de/pdf/horn...ts_handgun.pdf

I see 1200 and 1450, respectively.
Mudrush(RIP), mentioned that according to his testing, the bullets themselves are fully capable of staying together at considerably higher velocity than that chart shows.


what exactly is an XTP-FP?

[okietom]

My opinion is they are all good bullets. Get the lowest priced one. Or all three and have some fun trying to pick your favorite.

[Ak.Hiker]

what exactly is an XTP-FP?
They make several XTP bullets that are not hollow points. Two of them are for the 357 Magnum. One is a 125 grain FP and the other is a 158 grain FP. I see for the really big stuff they also make a 500 grain FP for the 500 S&W.