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Old 04-10-2012, 14:44   #1
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Must declare states

Not talking about good policy here, but if you CC in any of the following states could you please sound off if you know:

If a routine traffic stop requires showing CC permit and declaring weapon in the car ( don't care if CC or locked and boxed)

Georgia
South Carolina
Virginia
Maryland
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
New York

As you can see I'm going from South to North following
I-95/I-75/I-81. Some states I have a valid permit, some I'll
have the weapons locked and unloaded, but I want to know if I'm stopped, do I need to declare possession or just
shut the hell up....

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Old 04-10-2012, 14:52   #2
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Not talking about good policy here, but if you CC in any of the following states could you please sound off if you know:

If a routine traffic stop requires showing CC permit and declaring weapon in the car ( don't care if CC or locked and boxed)

Georgia
South Carolina
Virginia
Maryland
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
New York

As you can see I'm going from South to North following
I-95/I-75/I-81. Some states I have a valid permit, some I'll
have the weapons locked and unloaded, but I want to know if I'm stopped, do I need to declare possession or just
shut the hell up....

Thanks
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Old 04-10-2012, 16:04   #3
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In NC, the first thing you do when approached is to notify the officer you have a cc permit and you have your weapon with you. Then follow the officer's instructions. He may require you to show your permit and drivers license or he may let you go without asking for it or he may even ask you to see your weapon and take temporary possession of it. Key is to notify the Officer FIRST THING and follow his or her instructions from that point on. NC requires you have your concealed carry permit and a photo ID when you carry.
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Old 04-10-2012, 16:35   #4
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Hey, thanks for that. I'm assuming that if I'm not CC but have weapons unloaded and under lock that I don't have to
inform unless asked?
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Old 04-10-2012, 16:36   #5
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Old 04-10-2012, 16:39   #6
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Texas is a must declare state...although there is no punishment for not doing so. If you have a Tx CHL, they will know when they run your license. If one happens to have an out of state license...there is no way for them to know.
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Old 04-10-2012, 18:45   #8
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Bookmark it on your computer, phone, and any place else you play on the net. Great site to help answer most questions about carrying in other states.
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Old 04-10-2012, 19:03   #9
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My recommendation:

go to www.handgunlaw.us. Review and print off every state's information you will be traveling to/through and put it in a three ring binder and take it with you.

To be safe IMHO, always disclose that you are a CCW permit holder, present your permit, and that you are carrying.
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Old 04-10-2012, 19:34   #10
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For most people, I would say when outside your own home state, go ahead and declare to be on the safe side.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:44   #11
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Michigan for sure.

We had one case where the CPL holder was charged AND convicted for failure to notify.
He reached the officer his D/L and CPL and notified the office that he was carrying within 40 seconds after the officer had arrived at his window.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:55   #12
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follow the laws of the state youre in.

having said that, if youre in a non declairing state and there is a low chance of your gun being "found out", some will say stay quiet about it, but if there is a chance of it being "found out", i say its best to not suprise a cop and declair it at the begining.

you really have to know the laws of the state youre in, and for God's sake, if you go somewhere with an attention whore on youtube attitude, you'll most likely need bail money.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:36   #13
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In NC, as long as your handguns are locked up and not within reach of you or other passengers you are no longer carrying concealed. That being said the only time you need to notify is when you are carrying concealed. You have no duty to inform that you have a permit if you are not carrying a concealed handgun.

NC laws do not differentiate between loaded and unloaded but when or if it ever was questioned, unloaded would probably be in your favor.

Just make SURE they are not accessible to yourself or PASSENGERS in NC and you have no need to disclose.

You have no obligation to disclose your status of having a concealed carry permit but there are no laws on informing when not required and as many over time have testified to, they don't usually get hassled for notifying when not required and it may get you some leeway granted since they know you're not trying to hide things.

You choose.

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Old 04-11-2012, 12:01   #14
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That map has some errors on it! Be careful!

ie. Colorado. If traveling with a cwp and asked by leo, then you must inform.

If traveling without a cwp but still legally carrying concealed in your car, you don't have to inform if asked!

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New York is NOT a must declare state.

However NY does not honor anyone else's permits either.

Lock your gun in the trunk with ammo locked elsewhere if you're just "passin through"!

See: http://www.handgunlaw.us/
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I can carry in your state, but you can't carry in MINE!

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FYI: do not conceal carry in NYC
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Old 04-11-2012, 15:56   #19
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Georgia you don't have to declare. I have not had any negative encounters with the local Leo's
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Old 04-11-2012, 17:27   #21
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Another endorsement for handgunlaw.us - this topic is specifically covered in their state-by-state briefing, and a serious effort is made to keep it up to date and understandable. Indispensable site for the traveler.
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Old 04-11-2012, 17:59   #22
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Booker, The map is 100% correct. Read the Legend of the map. That tells you what info the map is supplying. Those states have a law that states you must inform an Officer who contacts you on official business that you have a permit/license to carry and that you have a firearm. Failure to notify them immediately upon official contact is a violation of the law. A guy in Michigan didn't notify the officer he was carrying until 40 seconds had passed from the time the officer appeared at the side of his vehicle until he told him. The Audio was captured on his Camera/Mic. He was convicted for not informing.

As for when you are ask by an officer you do not have to answer any question an officer ask you during a traffic stop. License/Registration/Proof of Insurance is all you have to hand them. You have a right to remain silent. Now AZ law states you have to answer an officer in a truthful manner if they ask.
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Old 04-11-2012, 18:43   #23
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follow the laws of the state youre in.

having said that, if youre in a non declairing state and there is a low chance of your gun being "found out", some will say stay quiet about it, but if there is a chance of it being "found out", i say its best to not suprise a cop and declair it at the begining.
I know what states honor my CC, just don't want curious
Officer Barney Fife deciding to look over my locked and secured weapons at the bottom of my trunk as I'm passing
through Mayberry. What he doesn't know won't hurt him.
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Old 04-11-2012, 22:27   #25
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Always declare it. If you don't tell the officer that you have a firearm even if he doesn't ask things are gonna get pretty tense if he sees it. In that respect it's much better to be safe than sorry.
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