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Old 04-09-2012, 18:00   #1
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Snubbies report (pics)

I took a few snubbie S&W's out this weekend; The pre model 34 KIt Gun .22/32, a no dash model 49 .38sp (Bodyguard) and 325PD .45acp.

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The Kit Gun dates 1955, I have Spegel grips on there.

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I used CCI Mini Mags, since the ammo is just very good and works well in all my guns. In the past it has chrono'd mid 900fps from this one.

All shooting was two handed DA.

THe trigger is typical S&W smooth, longer and lighter than my similar config Taurus 94 snubby, still a little stiffer than the other J frames- probably due to being a rimfire.

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THe last target went out to 65ft for COM group and back in to 21ft for a quick rapid fire group, about 1/sec.
THe first long shot went right, the remaining 5 were 'corrections'.

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I don't shoot it as much now that I have the Taurus 94, but it's pretty well capable of shooting about as well as my larger .22 pistols.
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Old 04-09-2012, 18:13   #2
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TY for the report! I always look forward to reading them.
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Old 04-09-2012, 18:32   #3
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I picked up the well used no-dash model 49 a few years ago. The finish is what you'd expect from a gun carried in law enforcement, probably in an ankle rig...but I really have no ideal what its first life was before I came along.
THe action is well broken-in with good lockup and positive bolt engagement, a little endshake, but not bad. I added the Tyler.

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I used std pressure Magtech 158gr SJSP, hard pressed to do 700fps from a 2" gun. Decently accurate though, put 8 through the same hole at 10yrds, five into 3.5" at 15yrds. Shooting was DA.

Some spazzieness on my part, tiny sights on this gun.

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At 65ft, I was able to slow it down and better my 15yrd effort with a good 3" group, it did well again at 21ft 1/sec too.

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Besides the older style skinny sights, the gun is very shootable with a very decent DA trigger-likely from lots of use. Generally, the J frame trigger leaves a little to be desired compared to the larger K,L and N frames due to their use of a coil mainspring.
Lots of DA Shooting goes a long way, though.
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Old 04-09-2012, 18:53   #4
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I wouldn't mind the 325 if not for the safety hole.
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:14   #5
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:16   #6
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THe 325PD is a scandium framed revolver with a Titanium cylinder. It weighs 22oz and shoots .45acp.

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The gun uses moon clips, a system developed for the 1917 Colt and S&W revolvers ushered into service to fill in for the 1911 pistol as production couldn't keep up. Most folks now know it makes for hella fast reloads too.
THe clips are from Wilson Combat, ammo Independence 230gr ball and the Demooner from Wilson Golf (putter).

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Shooting was all DA (again). Recoil is tougher with the lightweight, so rapid fire 21ft isn't quite as good as I'd prefer,but the big visible sights made it a bit easier than the J frames, which really come into effect at longer range.
For an N frame, the trigger is a little stiffer than normal, I suspect to insure reliable ignition with the moonclipped ammo.

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At 21ft, 1 per second shooting was a little 'challenged' from the stiff recoil, but my last five rounds at 65ft were under 2", so I was really happy there.

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Curiously, no jams or FTEs, FTF's, etc. Everything worked.
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:21   #7
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OK, I cheated. It's no snubbie. But Dirty Harry would be proud right?
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:21   #8
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TY for the report! I always look forward to reading them.
THanks, I appreciate that.


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I wouldn't mind the 325 if not for the safety hole.
So far no problems with my two locked smiths (442 and 325).
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:33   #9
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Curiously, no jams or FTEs, FTF's, etc. Everything worked.
Are you sure you didn't get hit in the face with brass?
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I picked up the well used no-dash model 49 a few years ago. The finish is what you'd expect from a gun carried in law enforcement, probably in an ankle rig...but I really have no ideal what its first life was before I came along.
THe action is well broken-in with good lockup and positive bolt engagement, a little endshake, but not bad. I added the Tyler.

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I used std pressure Magtech 158gr SJSP, hard pressed to do 700fps from a 2" gun. Decently accurate though, put 8 through the same hole at 10yrds, five into 3.5" at 15yrds. Shooting was DA.

Some spazzieness on my part, tiny sights on this gun.

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At 65ft, I was able to slow it down and better my 15yrd effort with a good 3" group, it did well again at 21ft 1/sec too.

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Besides the older style skinny sights, the gun is very shootable with a very decent DA trigger-likely from lots of use. Generally, the J frame trigger leaves a little to be desired compared to the larger K,L and N frames due to their use of a coil mainspring.
Lots of DA Shooting goes a long way, though.

It's funny, I have known many shooters who go to GREAT LENGHTS to preserve the finish of their firearms.

Having "created" my fair share of well and honestly worn pistols, I can express the opinion that to the origional owner it was very likely shaking hands with an old friend.

To my eyes it gives.....character.
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:57   #11
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It's funny, I have known many shooters who go to GREAT LENGHTS to preserve the finish of their firearms.

Having "created" my fair share of well and honestly worn pistols, I can express the opinion that to the origional owner it was very likely shaking hands with an old friend.

To my eyes it gives.....character.
Absolutely.
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:59   #12
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Great report as always, Berto
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Old 04-09-2012, 21:01   #13
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Nice snubby work, Berto.
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Old 04-09-2012, 21:16   #14
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Very nice Berto!
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I like Berto Reports!

I like S&W revolvers!!

I like large bore revolvers!!!

Thankyou Berto you made my day!
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Old 04-10-2012, 00:30   #16
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The 325PD looks like a nice ride. I've always liked the concept of the revolver married to rimless, moon clipped ammo.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:52   #17
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Nice shooting and, snubbies Berto!
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Old 04-10-2012, 13:06   #18
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The 22 and 38 pull right as I would expect. But why doesn't the 45 pull right for you?

Good shooting all the way around.

If you are giving them away, I'll take the 22, since I'm in the market for one now anyway
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Nice write up Berto!

Ya really got me wanting a Tyler for my 640!
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Old 04-10-2012, 17:21   #20
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The 22 and 38 pull right as I would expect. But why doesn't the 45 pull right for you?

Good shooting all the way around.

If you are giving them away, I'll take the 22, since I'm in the market for one now anyway

At longer distances my DA with the small frames probably 'milks' the gun a little right whereas the larger frames and longer trigger reach straightens things out maybe.
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Nice write up Berto!

Ya really got me wanting a Tyler for my 640!
I love the Tylers, though I'm not sure I'd want the factory sliver stocks and a Tyler on a .357- if it's the .357 version.
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