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04-08-2012, 21:38
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X300 @ 12:00 works best for me.
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04-08-2012, 21:59
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3:00 for me.
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04-09-2012, 04:09
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My TRL-1 is mounted at the 3 o'clock position. If I had a mid or full lenght I would mount it at the 6 o'clock position.
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04-09-2012, 04:34
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1:30 for me. Works well, keeps it out of the way when I don't want it, close enough to activate with a finger if I need it.
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04-09-2012, 10:13
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I have grow to like the VFG/4:30 combo. I am not a thumb over bore style shooter and having the VFG up front puts support hand thumb in a good position to toggle a tail cap button.
Since I'm dumping the quad rail, my next purchase will be the IWC MOE light mount @ 10:30.
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04-09-2012, 10:15
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Originally Posted by TangoFoxtrot
My TRL-1 is mounted at the 3 o'clock position. If I had a mid or full lenght I would mount it at the 6 o'clock position.
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Have you tried an A-frame rail? When I had a carbine, I had a TRL-1 mounted to the FSB and it worked out well.
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04-09-2012, 10:25
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Originally Posted by LA_357SIG
I have grow to like the VFG/4:30 combo. I am not a thumb over bore style shooter and having the VFG up front puts support hand thumb in a good position to toggle a tail cap button.
Since I'm dumping the quad rail, my next purchase will be the IWC MOE light mount @ 10:30.
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Why are you ditching the quad rail?
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04-09-2012, 10:28
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3 o'clock on my 10.5" LMT upper, Bushy lower. It's a Surefire G2 in a Vltor mount. No pressure switch.
I'm a lefty, and I've found that to be the best setup.
I don't have a current pic. I still only have a pic of when my Bushy was the Patrolman model. Even before putting on rails and Aimpoint.
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04-09-2012, 11:04
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Originally Posted by WoodenPlank
Why are you ditching the quad rail?
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My needs outweigh my wants. I have no need for a quad rail.
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04-09-2012, 21:06
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3 o clock with a pressure switch mounted on the VFG
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04-09-2012, 21:16
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I use a Streamlight TLR-1 at 9 o'clock. Anyone else run a "pistol" light on a carbine?
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04-09-2012, 21:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr
I use a Streamlight TLR-1 at 9 o'clock. Anyone else run a "pistol" light on a carbine?
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I have plans to do just that. Right now I'm using an old G2 in an offset mount. I love the TLR-1s on my G17...though I disabled the strobe feature immediately.
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04-09-2012, 22:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LA_357SIG
My needs outweigh my wants. I have no need for a quad rail.
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Kinda the same boat here. I've made the move away from quad-rails to MOE handguards, especially on my mid-lengths. For my uses, I have no need for a top rail on the forearm, and only part of the rail on the sides. The only full rail I make use of is the bottom. So why am I going to haul the extra weight of a quad-rail around?
MOE guards, and add the rails only where I need them. Comfortable, lightweight, and effective, even if they don't look as cool, lol.
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04-09-2012, 22:25
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Oh, and OP...
10:30 support side, I use an AFG, so that's perfect for quick activation.
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04-10-2012, 06:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr
I use a Streamlight TLR-1 at 9 o'clock. Anyone else run a "pistol" light on a carbine?
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not personally but this seems to be a growing trend especially with the "cutout" rails that extend beyond the front sight. if it works it works, my TLR-1 and the X300s are every bit as bright as my Scout M300A "rifle" light.
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04-10-2012, 08:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr
I use a Streamlight TLR-1 at 9 o'clock. Anyone else run a "pistol" light on a carbine?
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I’ve used that exact set up with good results. I like the compactness of pistol lights.
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04-10-2012, 11:33
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X300 on the rail at 9'oclock
Another AR has a upgraded led Surefire G2 using a top rail bracket that puts the light at 10'oclock.
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04-10-2012, 19:21
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Originally Posted by Hour13
Kinda the same boat here. I've made the move away from quad-rails to MOE handguards, especially on my mid-lengths. For my uses, I have no need for a top rail on the forearm, and only part of the rail on the sides. The only full rail I make use of is the bottom. So why am I going to haul the extra weight of a quad-rail around?
MOE guards, and add the rails only where I need them. Comfortable, lightweight, and effective, even if they don't look as cool, lol.

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You might want to get a scale or read Rob_s's chart on handguards.
Those MOE handguards with a rail section and the barrel nut usually outweigh a good freefloat rail.
But downgrading and jerry-rigging lights and slings to a plastic handguard is in style these days.
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04-10-2012, 20:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samuse
You might want to get a scale or read Rob_s's chart on handguards.
Those MOE handguards with a rail section and the barrel nut usually outweigh a good freefloat rail.
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Definitely not arguing that, Troy FFs are absolute featherweights. But again, it's more than just weight. For me, the MOE guards are very comfortable, the 3-sided shape feels very natural for my grip. I've played around with free float & drop-in rails, and the MOE guards are simply what I prefer.
And to anybody considering these for cost reasons, don't get too excited. By the time you add the guards & the rails sections, etc... you're only $20 away from the MI drop-in rails.
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But downgrading and jerry-rigging lights and slings to a plastic handguard is in style these days. 
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 Well golly mister, I'll just throw out those crappy handguards then, lol.
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I have no problem charging somebody stark nekid, with a TP tail hanging from my butt... Maybe they'll go to their maker with a smile on their face.
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04-10-2012, 21:30
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Originally Posted by Hour13
Definitely not arguing that, Troy FFs are absolute featherweights. But again, it's more than just weight. For me, the MOE guards are very comfortable, the 3-sided shape feels very natural for my grip. I've played around with free float & drop-in rails, and the MOE guards are simply what I prefer.
And to anybody considering these for cost reasons, don't get too excited. By the time you add the guards & the rails sections, etc... you're only $20 away from the MI drop-in rails.
 Well golly mister, I'll just throw out those crappy handguards then, lol. 
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I prefer the Moe Handguards also. They feel comfortable andI want lighter not heavier. I have no plans on going to the Mall and looking my best on Ninja Day.
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04-10-2012, 21:55
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I prefer the Moe Handguards also. They feel comfortable andI want lighter not heavier. I have no plans on going to the Mall and looking my best on Ninja Day.
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 Awesome.
I'm not ragging on rail systems in general, but I do feel that some people get far too wrapped up in the add-on gear. I was at the range a while back, and in the bay next to me was a guy with a PlumCrazy/R-Guns AR, with a DanielDefense rail!
Reminded me of rolling through the less than great parts of town. Seeing the primered early '80s Monte Carlos sitting on $2,000 worth of rims...
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I have no problem charging somebody stark nekid, with a TP tail hanging from my butt... Maybe they'll go to their maker with a smile on their face.
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04-10-2012, 22:53
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Originally Posted by Hour13
 Awesome.
I'm not ragging on rail systems in general, but I do feel that some people get far too wrapped up in the add-on gear. I was at the range a while back, and in the bay next to me was a guy with a PlumCrazy/R-Guns AR, with a DanielDefense rail!
Reminded me of rolling through the less than great parts of town. Seeing the primered early '80s Monte Carlos sitting on $2,000 worth of rims...

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I am cool with free float barrels on hunting and target rifles. It serves a real purpose.
But these Swiss Army Knife rifles look silly and just weight too much. Keep It Simple.
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04-10-2012, 23:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smokin762
I am cool with free float barrels on hunting and target rifles. It serves a real purpose.
But these Swiss Army Knife rifles look silly and just weight too much. Keep It Simple.
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My AR10 came from Armalite with a free-float rail, should I send it back?
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04-10-2012, 23:21
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Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr
My AR10 came from Armalite with a free-float rail, should I send it back?
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Oh ya, definitely!
Or you can just mail it to me...
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04-10-2012, 23:23
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Oh ya, definitely!
Or you can just mail it to me...

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 I have the MagPul handguards on a Spikes upper I have. Love 'em!
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