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Old 04-09-2012, 07:52   #26
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There may be more Paul supporting delegates than you realize...
...and your aunt may have testicles and actually be your uncle.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:51   #27
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Ron Paul convinces Sarah Palin to become his running mate.
JBnTX becomes a staunch Ron Paul supporter.



You might be half right?
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:32   #28
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Not a snowballs chance in hell of that happening.

The republican party is the only thing keeping Barack Obama and his liberal cronies
from turning America into a Socialist/Communist country.

As ineffective as they are, they're better than nothing.
It's not an "all or nothing" situation. It never is in politics.
watch wwwf, same thing. mad muftie v.s. randie savage.
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Old 04-09-2012, 13:58   #29
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The only question is whether you prefer Romney or Obama. Whether you decide on purpose or because you don't understand that, the result is the same.
The result is the same regardless of which you vote for. A Marxist globalist with shady history or a Mormon globalist with shady history. Hmm... that's a tough call.
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Old 04-09-2012, 14:06   #30
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Lets see, run first with a more mainstream, well known party with lots of press coverage and debates and fail to excite anyone but the fringe and collect less than 9% of the available delegates….

Since that doesn't work, bail out, and with even less infrastructure, a fatigued electorate from a vicious primary cycle, take remaining mostly depleted assets and assume a kook-on-the-margin profile outside normal channels where the results will be even worse and THAT WILL FIX EVERYTHING!

HAve I got that right?
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Old 04-09-2012, 14:09   #31
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I thought he was already running third party.

Let me help that make more sense:



I might vote for him in the Republican primary, but I'd worrry that he hurts the chances of beating Obama, even as a Republican. I would seriously love to see Ron Paul become president, but with his popularity, if he runs third party, the outcome of the election is certain, beyond any sane doubt - Obama would win.
This to a T. I don't like everything he represents but he is different and that is what we need and nobody else is bringing to the table.
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Old 04-09-2012, 14:09   #32
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The result is the same regardless of which you vote for. A Marxist globalist with shady history or a Mormon globalist with shady history. Hmm... that's a tough call.
A bit of intellectual dishonesty on top of generalizing and basically, well…wrong.


Romney is less than optimal, but Obama is downright dangerous. Choice is clear. Romney may actually turn out to surprise us. If he can fix things financially with his business acumen, a lot of follow-on stuff may just fix itself.
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Old 04-09-2012, 15:13   #33
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Romney is less than optimal, but Obama is downright dangerous. Choice is clear. Romney may actually turn out to surprise us. If he can fix things financially with his business acumen, a lot of follow-on stuff may just fix itself.
Be careful now, that kind of intelligent logic isn't welcome here.

The undercover Obama supporters will be along in a minute to
trash Romney and the entire republican party.
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Old 04-09-2012, 15:19   #34
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Be careful now, that kind of intelligent logic isn't welcome here.

The undercover Obama supporters will be along in a minute to
trash Romney and the entire republican party.
Seriously, you wouldn't know that if it bit you on the leg.
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Old 04-09-2012, 15:46   #35
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Seriously, you wouldn't know that if it bit you on the leg.

See, there's one now!

They can be identified by how quickly they resort to personal attacks.

Personal attacks, bashing the republican party and babbling about Ron Paul is all they know to do.
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Old 04-09-2012, 18:03   #36
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See, there's one now!

They can be identified by how quickly they resort to personal attacks.

Personal attacks, bashing the republican party and babbling about Ron Paul is all they know to do.
I only go after liberal progressives.
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Old 04-09-2012, 18:28   #37
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Ain't gonna happen. Ron is getting old as is shifting his focus to building a legacy for his son. If Ron caused O to get re-elected, Rand's career would be over.
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Old 04-09-2012, 18:36   #38
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Seriously, you wouldn't know that if it bit you on the leg.

Well, he found my post, didn't he?

My point is, one could list various annoyances about Romney all day long.

But I believe BHO is truly dangerous. We're already facing an unbelievable amount of lawlessness and it will worsen with a BHO not facing relelection:

-failure to prosecute the Black Panthers re Phila voting intimidation case
-Fast and furious
-failure to cease implementing Obamacare after the last circuit court ruling, pending outcome from the SCOTUS,
-failure to bring federal abduction conspiracy charges against the lynch mob in the trayvon martin case (sharpton, et al, and now the NBBP inciting a race war in FL)
-IRS abusive audits of certain anti BHO political forces.

etc, etc. Unrelenting criminal conduct, absolute lawlessness. Without question I do not see that type of thing happening under Romney. Or any more radical SCOTUS picks and you know at least one is gonna croak or retire in the next admin.

We will not survive another BHO admin, a Romney admin, at least theres hope…and not Dope like we have now.
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:08   #39
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Ross Peroit lives again.
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:30   #40
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I don't know why I continue to enlighten you Obama supporters with my superior intelligence?

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At least I know enough not to vote for Obama just to teach somebody a lesson.

Two more moronic posts with no basis in fact.
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Old 04-09-2012, 19:56   #41
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I have been an avid supporter of Dr. Paul because I honor, respect and have sworn to protect our constitution.

I am, and as many of you hope, probably an extreme minority.

I will not vote for the lesser of two evils.

I will not vote for Obamer, nor will I vote for Romney.

If those are the choices, I will not vote.

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Old 04-09-2012, 21:05   #42
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I have been an avid supporter of Dr. Paul because I honor, respect and have sworn to protect our constitution.

I am, and as many of you hope, probably an extreme minority.

I will not vote for the lesser of two evils.

I will not vote for Obamer, nor will I vote for Romney.

If those are the choices, I will not vote.

Yessir How High

And what will that accomplish?
Will it change anything?
Will anybody notice or even care?

What it WILL do is play right into the politicians hands.
You see, they don't want you to vote.

One reason things in this country are so screwed up is because less than half the population votes.

Unfortunately it's the ones with their hands out that do vote.
That's how people like Clinton and Obama get elected.

By not voting you're literally guaranteeing that nothing ever changes.

Is that what you want?

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Old 04-09-2012, 22:18   #43
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And what will that accomplish?
Will it change anything?
Will anybody notice or even care?

What it WILL do is play right into the politicians hands.
You see, they don't want you to vote.

One reason things in this country are so screwed up is because less than half the population votes.

Unfortunately it's the ones with their hands out that do vote.
That's how people like Clinton and Obama get elected.

By not voting you're literally guaranteeing that nothing ever changes.

Is that what you want?

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While I do not completely share Yessir's sentiments, you seem to be missing a very key point to what he said. No political party is entitled to his vote, or my vote, or your vote.

Voting for the same two parties has done nothing but continued the same series of failed ideas, time and time again. If the Republicans manage to win this election, the only thing that will actually change is who is signing the check and were the money is going.

By not voting, Yessir is acting, on principle, in the manner that he believes will maximize his voice in the election. If enough people don't vote, it is likely that the Republicans might actually rethink their direction.
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Old 04-09-2012, 22:36   #44
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If enough people don't vote, it is likely that the Republicans might actually rethink their direction.

Enough people not voting is what got us in this mess in the first place.

People vote to keep their welfare checks, free abortions, free healthcare
and whatever else the politicians promise them.

By refusing to vote, you enable that behavior.
Their vote counts. Yours doesn't cause you didn't cast it.

To say that any party or candidate doesn't deserve your vote is just selfish and immature, because you don't have a vote until you cast it at the ballot box.

A vote not cast doesn't exist and makes no difference.
You may as well be pissing in the wind.

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Old 04-09-2012, 22:53   #45
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A bit of intellectual dishonesty on top of generalizing and basically, well…wrong.


Romney is less than optimal, but Obama is downright dangerous. Choice is clear. Romney may actually turn out to surprise us. If he can fix things financially with his business acumen, a lot of follow-on stuff may just fix itself.
Now this is what I would call intellectual dishonesty mixed in with a pinch of wishful thinking.
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Now this is what I would call intellectual dishonesty mixed in with a pinch of wishful thinking.
This is what I would call a reading comprehension problem
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Old 04-10-2012, 00:41   #47
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, I will not vote.
So, you approve of the current lawlessness. Glad you stand up for yourself.


Of course, RP is the ONLY person on the planet that understnds the COTUS. No one else is qualified. Only he can do it and if he can't get in, then we should keep the current lawless president trying to tear it down.

Makes sense when you think about it. Wait...
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:35   #48
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Ron's a nice enough guy. He has some really good ideas. Barring a cosmic event, he won't be the republican nominee. I predicted long ago that there would be loud cries for him to run third party once that was evident to his followers. Even though many of them claimed Ron was a republican through and through and would never run third party. Even though he has run third party in the past and endorsed third party candidates in the last presidential election.

So here we are. He either will, or he won't. I guess the effect of that would depend on what his top priority is. He won't win, so he'd be running in a vain attempt to keep his message out there, revenge against the republicans, to keep his family gainfully employed, or some as yet unconsidered reason.

Maybe he will run, and try to get into the Mitt/Barry debates, then at the last minute tell all of his followers to vote for mitt to defeat barry?


Who knows?


It will be interesting to watch.
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And what will that accomplish?
Will it change anything?
Will anybody notice or even care?

What it WILL do is play right into the politicians hands.
You see, they don't want you to vote.

One reason things in this country are so screwed up is because less than half the population votes.

Unfortunately it's the ones with their hands out that do vote.
That's how people like Clinton and Obama get elected.

By not voting you're literally guaranteeing that nothing ever changes.

Is that what you want?

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Actually, voting blindly for your party's nominee is what the politicians want. Like a wolf isolating a lamb from the flock, you're guided into the corner they want you in.....so that nothing will change.

As for the one's with their hands out, that's pretty much everyone, including you.
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Enough people not voting is what got us in this mess in the first place.

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Hardly the problem.

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People vote to keep their welfare checks, free abortions, free healthcare
and whatever else the politicians promise them.
Like Social Security and Medicare

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By refusing to vote, you enable that behavior.
Their vote counts. Yours doesn't cause you didn't cast it.
Progressive left, Progressive right....refusing to vote for one of those two means you refuse to vote for a Progressive.

Be a good little sheep and line up for the shearing.

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To say that any party or candidate doesn't deserve your vote is just selfish and immature, because you don't have a vote until you cast it at the ballot box.
World-class stupidity right there.

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A vote not cast doesn't exist and makes no difference.
You may as well be pissing in the wind.
Sure it does....to a man with principles and a conscience.

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