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Old 04-07-2012, 21:21   #21
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Does bleach go bad?
Yep! Liquid bleach can and does go bad.

That is why a lot of preppers prefer "pool shock," which comes in solid form. It stores and lasts way better. Then, you have a reliable means of making suspect water safe to drink.

Just be sure you know how much to use for a given quantity of water.
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Old 04-07-2012, 21:31   #22
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id go for AA batteries, gas, propane tanks, assorted little debbie snacks, cigarettes and beer.

ive got most everything else. even have most of my list but just not as much as i'd like.

for those stocking bleach, look into powdered Calcium Hypochlorite. can be found as Pool Shock, but stay away from those with anything extra in it. if stored airtight and dry, will last almost indefinitely and can easily be made into liquid bleach and used as normal as needed.
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Old 04-07-2012, 21:31   #23
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My family already has a stash to get through most weather type event situations. And, if bad times persisted for a while ( remember, it took about 3 weeks for help to reach New Orleans), we can handle that as well.

As for what we would get--simply because we are prepared--we might get some comfort food type items, make sure we have enough good books to last for a while, and batten down the hatches.

Ready.gov has been telling everybody that we all need to have at least 3 days of food, water, etc. to handle any kind of emergency--and that should always be on hand--like right now.

Personally, after observing the less than stellar performance of our disaster response when something happens in the USA, I think that the 3 day suggested stash of supplies should be multiplied by a factor of at least ten. Do not stop prepping, until your family has a solid 30 day supply of essentials for every member of your family. Oh, and don't forget to plan for more due to the irresponsible friends and family who will come looking for you because they know you plan for these things--and they do not. Nice reward isn't it?
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Old 04-07-2012, 21:42   #24
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(removed...I was off topic -- had questions about calcium hypochlorite -- found answers here with a search.)
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Old 04-07-2012, 21:45   #25
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good question

Would go to costco:
1. gasoline
2. batteries
3. filled propane tanks
4. jerky
5. fresh fruit/vegetables
6. canned soup
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Old 04-07-2012, 21:49   #26
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1. Digorno supreme pizza with stuffed crust

2. Doritos

3. Iced Tea

4. Party Mix

5. Reeses Peanut Butter Cups

6. Nature Valley Fruit and Nut bar


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Old 04-07-2012, 22:49   #27
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Local Kroger:

1. Canned foods (we don't do the eat what store/store what eat thing well)

2. Dog food (even though it wouldn't be their usual)

3. Gas: Fill up red plastic gas cans at with fuel reward points, also top off vehicle.

Whatever else sounds like a good idea. Maybe toilet paper/paper towels, maybe garbage bags, maybe fruit, maybe milk, depends on the event, what we expect, and what we have.
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Old 04-07-2012, 23:08   #28
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Well, if you are already stocked up properly on the staples, then the last minute store run would be for your last fresh food for awhile. Bugging out or in matters regarding portability.

Here are some fresh items you might want to grab just before the stores close and the grid shuts down and etc:

Milk
We have a farm fresh source.

Bread

We bake our own,we ain't bought from a store in years.
Meat

Covered,and then some.
Veggies

Garden going in after the last threat of a frost goes by
Fruit

We have fruit trees.
Cheese

Same as milk,be for around for a long time.
Yogurt
Not our thing,not prep wise anyway.

Bucket of fried chicken
Couldn't resist,could ya.

Ice if you can't produce it fast enough.
We can,just ta fill freezers as needed.

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Old 04-08-2012, 10:05   #29
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:44   #30
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Lowes

1) Several of 5 gallon gas tanks (it is a barter item if I could fill it with diesel to get weapons n ammo or high-end valuable items)
2) Veggie seeds (to trade for some valuable things I need)
3) 1 set of wrenches and hand tools (to make several modifications out of things for a trade. I also could do a repair for a trade)
4) Wood spiltter ax 7 lbs (keep ourselves warm and to sell woods)
5) Two long crowbar (to break things down)
6) Heavy duty ropes (multi-purpose ropes)

I will need those things to thrive in SHTF. I don't want to be a dependent in the SHTF.



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Old 04-08-2012, 12:49   #31
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Lowes

1) Several of 5 gallon gas tanks (it is a barter item if I could fill it with diesel to get weapons n ammo or high-end valuable items)
2) Veggie seeds (to trade for some valuable things I need)
3) 1 set of wrenches and hand tools (to make several modifications out of things for a trade. I also could do a repair for a trade)
4) Wood spiltter ax 7 lbs (keep ourselves warm and to sell woods)
5) Two long crowbar (to break things down)
6) Heavy duty ropes (multi-purpose ropes)

I will need those things to thrive in SHTF. I don't want to be a dependent in the SHTF.



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I guess the question is...why don't you have them now?

I think most items on a list like this are perishable, otherwise they would already have been acquired.
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Old 04-08-2012, 13:11   #32
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I guess the question is...why don't you have them now? I think most items on a list like this are perishable, otherwise they would already have been acquired.
My question also. I would think your last-minute run would concentrate on the perishables.

Thanks to this exercise I'm totally reorganizing my original list. Now:

1 Gasoline
2 Ice
3 Soda - CokeZero
4 Bread
5 Peanut Butter
6 Batteries, maybe, if time permits. Have lots of Eneloops.

Water left the list because there’s 120 gallons at home, and I don’t want to be schlepping heavy water around at the last minute. Cola instead. Bleach is gone, going to use Calcium Hypochlorite instead.
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Old 04-08-2012, 13:19   #33
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TALLY so far, by number of mentions:

1. Gasoline - 7 mentions
2. Batteries - 6 mentions
3. Vegetables - 4 mentions
4. Toilet paper - 4 mentions

All the following got 3 mentions so far:

Water
Bread
Ice
Alcohol
Soda

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I was surprised at toilet paper & alcohol making top mentions -- these can both be stocked. But if they're not, that indicates they'd make excellent barter items. Batteries is borderline, if people were meaning AA and AAA, since LSD NiMH rechargeables (Eneloops, etc.) can be stocked.
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Old 04-08-2012, 14:33   #34
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My first actual shopping actions (if time & situation allow) are the following:

1. GASOLINE
2. CASH x MAX ATM WITHDRAWAL
3. AMMUNITION (edited to caveat:ADDITIONAL)

Once I've accomplished the above, and if the opportunity to shop a grocery store exists:

My priority FOOD items are soon-to-be-scarce things (mostly high calorie fat or protein) that keep without electricity:

1. COOKING OIL
2. SPAM
3. EGGS
4. BUTTER
5. CRISCO
6. SUMMER SAUSAGE

7. VELVEETA PROCESSED CHEESE
8. PEPPERONI
9. TUNA
10. CANNED CORNED BEEF
11. SALTINE CRACKERS
12. PEANUT BUTTER
13. CHOCOLATE
14. HONEY
15. HARD BLOCK/WHEEL CHEESE
16. WASA CRISP CRACKERS
17. DRIED PASTA MIXES (BAG/BOX MEALS)
18. ROASTED NUTS (ANY)
19. DAK CANNED HAM
20. NUTELLA HAZELNUT CHOCOLATE SPREAD (VERY HIGH CALORIE)
21. CANNED ROAST BEEF
22. CANNED CHICKEN
23. CANNED SOUP
24. CANNED STEW
25. CORN NUTS (VERY HIGH CALORIE)

Sorry...I can't keep a list to just six items unless it's a 6-pack of beer.

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Old 04-08-2012, 15:04   #35
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My first actual shopping actions (if time & situation allow) are the following...
Good list, but is this your last-second list? By way of feedback, this would mean you'd need to go to four stores to get your first four items...unless they're now selling ammo at Arco stations or banks.

Why not stock cash and ammo now? Ditto some of the long-shelf items on your list, such as #17 pasta and #14 Honey, which is perhaps the longest shelf-life food known to mankind, having been found in ancient Egyptian tombs and still being edible.

Otherwise, a thoughtful, ordered list...strong work.

Out of curiosity, how long do eggs last w/o refrigeration?
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I think an S/Per listing ammunition at the top of a "last second" list is doing something wrong.
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Out of curiosity, how long do eggs last w/o refrigeration?
Why not bring live chickens?

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Old 04-08-2012, 17:12   #38
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I guess the question is...why don't you have them now?

I think most items on a list like this are perishable, otherwise they would already have been acquired.
I live in an apartment and I am married. Sometime you don't get what you need right now because you aren't the only one making decision.


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Old 04-08-2012, 17:29   #39
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IF there's time for a run to one store (grocery store? big box store?) before an event (and often there is),

Water (Can never have enough) or possibly CokeZero (my fave)
AA Batteries (to get the freshest possible)
Bleach (would want the freshest bottle possible)
Bread
Ice (to turn powerless fridge into icebox)
Peanut Butter (fresher is better)

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I thought you were trying to survive?
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Old 04-08-2012, 17:34   #40
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Last hurrican that hit was a few years ago. I was the only one in the store buying beer, pizza, smokes, red bull, jager. I keep everything else stocked up anyway.
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