Martial Law Makes Gun Prepping Unnecessary!

Made in Austria · 04-06-2012, 10:18

If you watch these videos you will soon realize that gun prepping for a SHTF scenario probably doesn't make much sence and is rather a waste of money to invest in guns and ammo.

I always thought that hiding weapons is a very good way to bypass the Martial law, but today I don't think so becasue the government probably knows exactly how many guns you own.

What do you think?

Hurricane Katrina Door to Door Firearms Confiscation - YouTube

Glenn Beck Warns Of Food Riots, Martial Law & Gun Confiscations - YouTube

(go forward to 4:25)

NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina - YouTube

Military Preparing for Martial Law - YouTube

cyrsequipment · 04-06-2012, 10:27

MadMonkey · 04-06-2012, 10:43

Molon Labe?

Made in Austria · 04-06-2012, 10:54

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Originally Posted by MadMonkey

Molon Labe?

LOL. No not me. I can't imagine me fighting against a horde of army guys. I'll just hand my gun over.

NecoDude · 04-06-2012, 10:55

The things that make you go hummm.... Hummm....

Rodman24 · 04-06-2012, 11:00

Does anyone remember what happened to the police force during Katrina?

Chesafreak · 04-06-2012, 11:00

Maybe the answer is to keep some of your guns ready, and bury others with ammo. Then when the time comes you can retrieve the buried ones.

ArmoryDoc · 04-06-2012, 11:11

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LOL. No not me. I can't imagine me fighting against a horde of army guys. I'll just hand my gun over.

Yeah. It's a waste of time. I would hand 'em over too. You're right. I mean, what's the point, right ?

Bolster · 04-06-2012, 11:17

Why do we continue to call this country "United States of America"? That country's gone. We need a new name.

jason10mm · 04-06-2012, 11:21

Check your state laws. I thought a bunch of states passed laws preventing gun confiscation in situations like that.

The real issue will be forced evacuation. I'm sure most jurisdictions can forcibly condemn buildings as being "unsafe" and make evacuation mandatory. In this situation your preps are to make sure you can stay OUT of relocation camps. Have the cash and supplies necessary to stay at a hotel or family/friends house and not in a camp like those poor Katrina refugees.

AK_Stick · 04-06-2012, 11:31

How does the gov't know exactly how many guns someone has?

Hell, I couldn't even tell you how many I have without counting them all while they're infront of me. Pretty impressive if they could tell me.

Secondly, after all the laws passed making that illegal, I doubt it will happen again.

Hummer · 04-06-2012, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Made in Austria

I always thought that hiding weapons is a very good way to bypass the Martial law, but today I don't think so becasue the government probably knows exactly how many guns you own.

What do you think?

We should have no doubt that as a part of the "war on terror", .gov supercomputers are monitoring and compiling data on all of us. Every post and comment you transmit on any listserv, forum, and website from GT to facebook provides another slice of the information pie. Personalities are categorized, people labeled, and potential threats however small are analyzed. If the day ever comes there will be no anonymity and little place to hide.

But, I don't agree that prepping is unnecessary, or that resistance is futile.

Wake_jumper · 04-06-2012, 11:48

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Originally Posted by jason10mm

Check your state laws. I thought a bunch of states passed laws preventing gun confiscation in situations like that.

The real issue will be forced evacuation. I'm sure most jurisdictions can forcibly condemn buildings as being "unsafe" and make evacuation mandatory. In this situation your preps are to make sure you can stay OUT of relocation camps. Have the cash and supplies necessary to stay at a hotel or family/friends house and not in a camp like those poor Katrina refugees.

Under the President's "National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order of March 16", State and Local Laws are meaningless.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-ga...b_1370819.html

oldman11 · 04-06-2012, 12:18

Hell, if you guys are going to hand over your guns so willingly, then what is the point in having them in the 1st place?

Rodman24 · 04-06-2012, 12:32

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Under the President's "National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order of March 16", State and Local Laws are meaningless.[/url]

I would say that in the event of martial law, most police and national guard troops would be busy with the more populated areas, providing security instead beating around in the sticks looking for Joe Bob and his guns. And very few laws would actually matter at that point.

Anyone who thinks that US gun owners will just roll over and allow the confiscation is fooling themselves. Of course I don't own firearms anymore, but I'm just sayin'...

Bolster · 04-06-2012, 12:37

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Secondly, after all the laws passed making that illegal, I doubt it will happen again.

I assume you are saying this sarcastically?

Made in Austria · 04-06-2012, 12:38

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Originally Posted by AK_Stick

How does the gov't know exactly how many guns someone has?

Hell, I couldn't even tell you how many I have without counting them all while they're infront of me. Pretty impressive if they could tell me.

Secondly, after all the laws passed making that illegal, I doubt it will happen again.

Not sure, but they could if they wanted to, if they dont do it already. It's pretty easy her in Nevada because you have to register each firearm except of longarms.

Or they could just count each background check you have had in the past regarding firearm purchases.

AK_Stick · 04-06-2012, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Bolster

I assume you are saying this sarcastically?

Maybe in your state.

Not in the free ones.

AK_Stick · 04-06-2012, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Made in Austria

Not sure, but they could if they wanted to, if they dont do it already. It's pretty easy her in Nevada because you have to register each firearm except of longarms.

Or they could just count each background check you have had in the past regarding firearm purchases.

Number of background checks doesn't mean much. I've bought less than 10 of my guns from FFL's, and only transferred 3-4 through them.

90% of my guns have been purchased from private party's and I've sold several of the transferred ones the same way.

Good luck figuring out how many guns I have, when I can't even give you an exact number without cracking my safe and checking my SN books.

mortpes · 04-06-2012, 12:51

Troups = safety? Kent State.

Bren · 04-06-2012, 12:52

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Originally Posted by AK_Stick

How does the gov't know exactly how many guns someone has?

They don't know exactly, but if you've bought one since the brady bill was enacted, they have a record that you are a gun owner and a partial list. Yeah, I know they only keep those for a couple of days...right...and that explains why the dealer has to give them the brand, model and serial number of the gun, when that has no legal significance to the background check, too, right?

Yes, they currently have an electronic record, somewhere, of every gun you have bought with a Brady background check, They have a paper and electronic record of every gun you have boght at a gun shop that is no longer in business. In a fairly short time they can have a record of every gun anybody ever bought from any FFL.

Bren · 04-06-2012, 12:53

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Originally Posted by mortpes

Troups = safety? Kent State.

Exactly - troops or troupes, all I know is they keep us safe from &%&^^% hippies.

Bren · 04-06-2012, 12:56

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Originally Posted by oldman11

Hell, if you guys are going to hand over your guns so willingly, then what is the point in having them in the 1st place?

You said it. People go on about how the 2nd amendment is about keeping guns to resist the government by force, but from 1775 to today, a very large majority have never had the backbone to do anything about it.

Verrater · 04-06-2012, 12:57

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Originally Posted by Made in Austria

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You're right, better just hand them over.
I mean what's the worst that could happen?

Edit: Those Katrina confiscations were ruled unconstitutional.
Doesn't mean it won't happen again though.

AK_Stick · 04-06-2012, 13:00

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Originally Posted by Bren

They don't know exactly, but if you've bought one since the brady bill was enacted, they have a record that you are a gun owner and a partial list. Yeah, I know they only keep those for a couple of days...right...and that explains why the dealer has to give them the brand, model and serial number of the gun, when that has no legal significance to the background check, too, right?

Yes, they currently have an electronic record, somewhere, of every gun you have bought with a Brady background check, They have a paper and electronic record of every gun you have boght at a gun shop that is no longer in business. In a fairly short time they can have a record of every gun anybody ever bought from any FFL.

Yes, they have a partial list of guns purchased, you "may" own from FFL's.

That in no way shape or form, constitutes any sort of even decent information to make a guestiment of how many guns you ACTUALLY own.