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Old 03-12-2012, 16:49   #26
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Dang, I think your good to go. You going to get an extra barrel?
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Old 03-12-2012, 17:11   #27
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Dang, I think your good to go. You going to get an extra barrel?
For some reason I bought a new Storm Lake G19 barrel about a year ago and it has been sitting around doing nothing. I have thought about buying the OST barrel and they are about $200, but I think I better try the Storm Lake before I spend any more.
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Old 03-12-2012, 21:15   #28
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Going to be sweet!
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Old 03-12-2012, 21:51   #29
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It was $108 for all of the slide internals excluding the barrel and recoil system. I did not think it would be that much until I started putting the items in the cart. The stiker is the most expensive. I should be ready to go by the begining of next week and will let you know how it goes. In a couple of weeks I should get my G32 back from Mark.
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Old 03-12-2012, 22:01   #30
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Definately let me know and post up some pics! I thought there were two options for the slide in Brownells (one for stripped, and the other with internals)? Or did the one that included internals also have a barrel that you didn't need? I can't remember. You have me wanting one bad now.
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Old 03-12-2012, 22:29   #31
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It is stated a little poor at Brownells, but it said it is will accept all glock standard parts. I did not see another option and since the internal cost over $100, I do not think they could sell the slide so equipped for $269.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:37   #32
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Here is the one that includes internals that I was talking about. Does not include the barrel, but is $379.... so it looks like you did good getting internals seperately.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=0...ch=100-008-815
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:55   #33
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You are right, I did not see that one. I could have saved $8 by purchasing that one. Be careful it is the same amount if you get the RMR cut one, or the plain slide. Wonder why??

Go for it.

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Old 03-13-2012, 08:01   #34
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I could kick myself for not finding that. It would have been the easier way to go. Watch Lone Wolf will be out of one of the parts and I will have a difficult time finding it.

They had one in stock for me, they may have more, but $499 is the best price I have seen for an RMR RM07.

http://www.******tactical.com/trrmrrm65moa.html

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Old 03-13-2012, 09:05   #35
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Thanks for the link. Check Glockparts.com if LWD is out of stuff. They might have what your looking for.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:25   #36
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I know that what I am suggesting violates conventional wisdom, but I am curious so I will ask anyway.

Has anyone heard of an RMR failing? If so, was the cause of the failure known? Has anyone had the batteries in a LED RMR fail unexpectedly?

Are backup iron sights really needed for a carry gun with RMR sights? Those tall front sight look like they could get caught on something. Also, it looks to me like the Trijicon RM44, Glock RMR Pistol Mount could not be used with a rear iron sight.

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Has anyone heard of an RMR failing? If so, was the cause of the failure known? Has anyone had the batteries in a LED RMR fail unexpectedly?
RMR failures do occur, but they are rare and usually an issue involving the battery for the LED RMR (overheated or leaking battery, battery contact dirty or bent, etc.). I never had the RMR fail in my personal experience with electrical tape beneath it for heat insulation. Battery life is quoted as:
"Up to 2 years of typical use*, up to 5 years in dark storage.

*When used at 70F (21C). Extreme temperatures (high or low) will affect lithium battery performance."
Judging by what others have reported, the RMR red dot grows gradually dimmer if the battery is not replaced after a very long time, rather than failing suddenly. Thus, there is some advanced warning, but it can easily be avoided with a routine battery replacement schedule. I will replace the battery once each year (e.g., on my birthday) and expect to have no problems based on the long-term experience of others I trust.

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Are backup iron sights really needed for a carry gun with RMR sights? Those tall front sight look like they could get caught on something.
Below is an excellent expert opinion at WarriorTalk.com on the value of the co-witnessed BUIS for the RMR.

Thoughts On The BUIS And The Red Dot Concept by Gabe Suarez

The BUIS were indispensable to me to speed up training for the RMR, with minimal frustration, as mentioned in the article by Gabe Suarez above. I'll add that tritium vials on the iron sights are extremely helpful to me to quickly find the red dot in low light. I believe the experts at WarriorTalk are coming to the same conclusion about tritium BUIS.

The front sight snagging is not an issue in my experience drawing from a full kydex holster closed at the muzzle.

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Also, it looks to me like the Trijicon RM44, Glock RMR Pistol Mount could not be used with a rear iron sight.
You are correct about the RM44 mount precluding use of a rear iron sight. My preference is to mount the BUIS in the stock locations with the RMR located between them set in a milled slide.
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Old 03-14-2012, 13:30   #38
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Very interesting. Thanks!
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Check gun broker. I just bought an rm07 for 469 new from a trijicon dealer

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Old 03-14-2012, 20:00   #40
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Anyone who has this setup, I'm seriously about to pull the trigger on this...but:

1. I'd love to see a shooters perspective pic please. I'm not sure why BUIS are needed to aid in finding the dot. Seems to me once you extend the weapon to high ready, it should generally be right there. (assumption is that the RMR is zeroed, and the shooter possesses sound fundamentals).

2. Are the BUIS's a true co-witness? Some of the pics I have seen of this setup...the rear sight looks like it may be a little short.

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Old 03-14-2012, 20:21   #41
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Anyone who has this setup, I'm seriously about to pull the trigger on this...but:

1. I'd love to see a shooters perspective pic please. I'm not sure why BUIS are needed to aid in finding the dot. Seems to me once you extend the weapon to high ready, it should generally be right there. (assumption is that the RMR is zeroed, and the shooter possesses sound fundamentals).

2. Are the BUIS's a true co-witness? Some of the pics I have seen of this setup...the rear sight looks like it may be a little short.

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Not the best pic but it shows a little of what you asked for. Please relies the camera focused on the rear sight the the dot bloomed a little bit. It is not that big in real life. My gun is a tsd after market slide with suppressor height night sights. The sights sit in the lower 3rd I E. Not true cowitness but rather 1/3 cowitness.

As far as having the irons they do aid in picking up the dot under stress but on the range under perfect conditions they dont help that much. The other big reason for the iron sights is if your reddot does go down. or if you are in a dark area aiming into a really well lit area and your dot washes out you can still aim. Overall it is a great system. I was on the fence about it for some time because i have trouble with reddot sights being very distorted. But even with that problem i have found it to be a great inprovmemt over irons

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Old 03-14-2012, 20:41   #42
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Not the best pic but it shows a little of what you asked for. Please relies the camera focused on the rear sight the the dot bloomed a little bit. It is not that big in real life. My gun is a tsd after market slide with suppressor height night sights. The sights sit in the lower 3rd I E. Not true cowitness but rather 1/3 cowitness.

As far as having the irons they do aid in picking up the dot under stress but on the range under perfect conditions they dont help that much. The other big reason for the iron sights is if your reddot does go down. or if you are in a dark area aiming into a really well lit area and your dot washes out you can still aim. Overall it is a great system. I was on the fence about it for some time because i have trouble with reddot sights being very distorted. But even with that problem i have found it to be a great inprovmemt over irons

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Thanks bikerdog for taking the time to post the pic. It tells me everything I need to know. Much appreciated.
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Old 03-14-2012, 21:15   #43
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Genin posted this low-light photo of the co-witness sight picture of his RMR (8.0 MOA) on a milled TSD AquaTerra slide with the AmeriGlo suppressor night sights for BUIS.

Sights, Optics and Lasers


g300d posted this photo of the co-witness sight picture of the RM02 RMR LED (8.0 MOA) and suppressor night sights mounted on the milled OEM slide of his Glock 19.

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Does anyone know if the RMR RM07 comes with a cover? I just put a new one on my TSD slide and also put on Ameriglo supressor sights, but the RM07 did not have a cover. Not that I would use a cover much, but it would seem like it should have something. The TSD slide I purchased from Brownell's is great; every thing went on perfectly. I am just waiting for the slide internals to arrive from Lone Wolf.

I did put the slide on a frame and the BUIS was needed to quickly pick up the dot. That is because I am used to aiming lower than the tall sights. I would imagine after a while you would pick it up quickly without the BUIS, but it somehow seems more reliable with them on.

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Does anyone know if the RMR RM07 comes with a cover? I just put a new one on my TSD slide and also put on Ameriglo supressor sights, but the RM07 did not have a cover. Not that I would use a cover much, but it would seem like it should have something.
I'm not aware of a cover sold for the RMR (any model).

Review the cleaning instructions and precautions in the RMR FAQ at http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/support/faq_RMR.php and on Page 24 of the Operator's Manual (Cleaning and General Care). In the cleaning instructions, when it calls for an ordinary glass cleaner, I typically use premoistened lens wipes⁽⁾ sold at the drugstore for eyeglasses. The RMR is a tough little bugger, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Related cleaning accessories that Trijicon sells if you have an interest:

http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produc...3.php?pid=TA56

http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produc...3.php?pid=PR42

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Old 03-16-2012, 00:27   #46
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I also had an AA conversion slide milled by Mark for a Fastfire II sight.
Mark previously milled a G19 for me (RMR), and I was considering doing the same on an AA because the extra weight of the RMR adapter plate kinda screws up the cycling reliability. How deep was Mark able to mill the AA slide . . . same as on the Glock slide or is it a more shallow cut?
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Related cleaning accessories that Trijicon sells if you have an interest:

http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produc...3.php?pid=TA56

http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produc...3.php?pid=PR42
I have both of those that I receive with a new Nightforce scope. They both are rather good and I do not think I would clean a scope with anything else, or the RMR now.

I will also say that the tritium on the BUIS is a good move. I do not think Mark is supplying Tritium BUIS sights on the setup he is milling for me.

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I have both of those that I receive with a new Nightforce scope. They both are rather good and I do not think I would clean a scope with anything else, or the RMR now.
That's interesting feedback. I've seen the LensPen before and wondered if it was worthwhile. I will get one and try it out. Thanks.

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I will also say that the tritium on the BUIS is a good move. I do not think Mark is supplying Tritium BUIS sights on the setup he is milling for me.
I've trained in low-light, timed exercises with plain black BUIS for the RMR and later with tritium on the BUIS. The RMR with tritium BUIS is a significant improvement IMHO.
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Mark previously milled a G19 for me (RMR), and I was considering doing the same on an AA because the extra weight of the RMR adapter plate kinda screws up the cycling reliability. How deep was Mark able to mill the AA slide . . . same as on the Glock slide or is it a more shallow cut?
The cut on the AA slide is just a hair shallower than on the Glock slide. I don't know if that is because he couldn't mill deeper or it was just the difference in the sights (RMR vs FastFire). You have to eyeball it close to tell the difference though.

Adding the FastFire had no effect on the cycling/reliability of the AA kit by the way.
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I'll be sending mine to Mark, tomorrow. He says the AA slide is a real PITA to mill.
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