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03-08-2012, 05:42
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What is the State of the Dead
There seems to be much confusion around the world about what happens to us when we die.
Here is a great sermon on video explaining the State of the Dead according to scripture. Enjoy.
http://www.cbcg.org/Video/20110820WhatStateDead.htm
Here is the text of the same sermon if you would rather read it or just use it to follow along with the video.
http://www.cbcg.org/franklin/Transcr...ead_082011.pdf
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03-08-2012, 07:35
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New Jersey?
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03-08-2012, 09:43
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a state of decomposition
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03-08-2012, 09:57
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So far, all we have is testimony of those who have been medically pronounced dead and have come back to life, and actually remember their experience. Other people will be Saints, Prophets, Sears and Visionaries, who have been given knowledge or have been taken to witness the mystery of the spiritual world.
The other state, is like AG said; New Jersey.
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03-08-2012, 10:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtificialGrape
New Jersey?

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Thread over. Someone cut AG a check.
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03-08-2012, 10:33
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In my case, Texas.
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03-08-2012, 10:49
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Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.
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03-08-2012, 10:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCoulter
Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.
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That would depend upon whose advice he listens to.
Matthew 15:14
And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
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03-08-2012, 11:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtificialGrape
New Jersey?

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I was gonna say Florida, but then realized that is the State of the Almost Dead.
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03-08-2012, 11:59
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I've seen lots of attempted proofs of God, but I don't seem to remember any proofs of an immortal soul.
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03-08-2012, 12:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geko45
a state of decomposition
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtificialGrape
New Jersey?

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Same thing.
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03-08-2012, 12:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roering
That would depend upon whose advice he listens to.
Matthew 15:14
And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
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So I take it you actually watched the video or read the transcripts before making a claim like that?
Or
Was you just trolling as usual?
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03-08-2012, 12:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCoulter
There seems to be much confusion around the world about what happens to us when we die.
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Sorry FC, but he started bagging on us Catholics within the first three minutes of the video. Even Animal Mother waits at least 10 minutes before he starts in...
1. You die.
2. The body returns to dust.
3. You return to God.
4. You are judged.
5. Saved one's go to Paradise with the Lord.
a). Glorified body when Christ returns to Earth.
6. Unsaved one's to a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(Note: If there is a Rapture, you will know it when you login to GT Religious Issues and only AG, AM, and Geko45 are the only one's posting).
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03-08-2012, 12:31
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State of dead? You go back to being what you were before you were born - nonexistent.
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03-08-2012, 12:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCoulter
So I take it you actually watched the video or read the transcripts before making a claim like that?
Or
Was you just trolling as usual?
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I've heard enough of Fred's "sermons" to know a nutcase when I hear one. His rants involving the New World Order, Illuminati, and many other conspiracy theories should send any somewhat coherent thinking human running. Nevertheless there are many who sadly are drawn to such ramblings and have joined his cult. When he dies his "church" will disperse and be forgotten as another nutter will pop up somewhere else.
As for me, I'll take the teachings of Christ and those whom He commissioned within the Church He established. We've been around nearly 2,000 years and have seen our share of guys like this come and go.
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03-08-2012, 12:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilley
Sorry FC, but he started bagging on us Catholics within the first three minutes of the video.
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There is nothing an imposter hates worse than the real article.
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03-08-2012, 12:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilley
1. You die.
2. The body returns to dust.
3. You return to God.
4. You are judged.
5. Saved one's go to Paradise with the Lord.
a). Glorified body when Christ returns to Earth.
6. Unsaved one's to a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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1. You really die
2. the body turns to dust
3. The breath of life returns to God
4. You are raised in one of two resurrections
5. Saved ones inhabit the Kingdom of God
6. Unsaved ones go to the lake of fire where they are destroyed.
There is a resurrection to life and another resurrection to judgment. Jesus said so. They are in the graves until then. Jesus said so.
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour cometh, in which all that are in the tombs shall hear his voice,
5:29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment.
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John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
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03-08-2012, 12:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilley
1. You die.
2. The body returns to dust.
3. You return to God.
4. You are judged.
5. Saved one's go to Paradise with the Lord.
a). Glorified body when Christ returns to Earth.
6. Unsaved one's to a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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I agree with you on 2 out of the 6.
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03-08-2012, 12:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilley
Sorry FC, but he started bagging on us Catholics within the first three minutes of the video. Even Animal Mother waits at least 10 minutes before he starts in...
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Really,are you that thin skinned? actually in the first 3 mins. protestants are mentioned more than catholics.
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03-08-2012, 12:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roering
I've heard enough of Fred's "sermons" to know a nutcase when I hear one. His rants involving the New World Order, Illuminati, and many other conspiracy theories should send any somewhat coherent thinking human running. Nevertheless there are many who sadly are drawn to such ramblings and have joined his cult. When he dies his "church" will disperse and be forgotten as another nutter will pop up somewhere else.
As for me, I'll take the teachings of Christ and those whom He commissioned within the Church He established. We've been around nearly 2,000 years and have seen our share of guys like this come and go. 
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Guess I shouldn't have referred to as a troll huh?
Very catholic like your response. I'll just leave it at that.
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03-08-2012, 12:58
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Can't I just go to Magaritaville when I die?
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03-08-2012, 13:08
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Originally Posted by Geko45
Can't I just go to Magaritaville when I die?

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If you worship my god I can guarantee you a stay in Margarita-ville for all eternity. You will also be greeted by 72 drunken non-virgins.
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03-08-2012, 13:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCoulter
Very catholic like your response. I'll just leave it at that.
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It's nice to see you compliment someone for a change.
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03-08-2012, 13:31
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Originally Posted by Altaris
If you worship my god I can guarantee you a stay in Margarita-ville for all eternity. You will also be greeted by 72 drunken non-virgins.
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Excellent! They will have experience... Will there be cajun martinis and afternoon golf?
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03-08-2012, 13:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtificialGrape
New Jersey?

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Exactly!!!!!
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