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Old 02-17-2012, 20:30   #1
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G26 vs. G27 Ballistics

I'm trying to decide between a G26 and G27...

Why I want the G27:
1. I have 2 other .40cal handguns - ammo would work in all
2. Bigger round, more stopping power etc.

Why I want the G26:
1. Holds 1 more round than the G27
2. Less recoil, get back on target easier
3. Ammo is much cheaper
4. Easier for Fiancee to shoot if needed

I am leaning towards the G26, but am concerned that the 9mm and short barrel = less stopping power, so the G27 might be a better choice.

Where can I find ballistics comparing the G26 & G27 vs. normal barrel lengths?
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Old 02-17-2012, 20:37   #2
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Look up the tests on a 4" barrel and subtract approximately 30FPS.
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Old 02-17-2012, 20:44   #3
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Look up the tests on a 4" barrel and subtract approximately 30FPS.
I wanted to see the energy statistics too
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Old 02-17-2012, 20:48   #4
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I'm trying to decide between a G26 and G27...

Why I want the G27:
1. I have 2 other .40cal handguns - ammo would work in all
2. Bigger round, more stopping power etc.

Why I want the G26:
1. Holds 1 more round than the G27
2. Less recoil, get back on target easier
3. Ammo is much cheaper
4. Easier for Fiancee to shoot if needed

I am leaning towards the G26, but am concerned that the 9mm and short barrel = less stopping power, so the G27 might be a better choice.

Where can I find ballistics comparing the G26 & G27 vs. normal barrel lengths?
Get a G27 with a Storm Lake G27 40-9mm conversion barrel and have both! I did...

Also a G23 40-9mm will fit in the G27 as well and give you a full 4.02" gun.
Speer GDHP 9mm 124 +P run 1220 fps 410 E from a 4" barrel.

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Old 02-17-2012, 20:52   #5
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Glock 26 Velocities

All information is based on 10-shot averages from the 3.46" factory Glock barrel in a Glock 26. Average velocities, extreme spreads, and standard deviations are in ft/sec. An asterisk by the load indicates that it is no longer made. Some Glock 26 shooters may still have some of this ammunition so the data is included.

Ammunition Average Velocity Extreme Spread Std. Deviation

Aguila 65-gr IQ HP 1517 64 23

Glaser Silver Pre-Frag +P 1514 N/A N/A

Winchester USA 115-gr FMJ 1097 87 40

PMP 115-gr FMJ 1046 38 15

Fiocchi 115-gr FMJ 1180 57 21

Federal 115-gr JHP (9BP) 1111 34 13

Triton 115-gr Hi Vel JHP +P* 1280 N/A N/A

Hornady 124-gr XTP CQ Tap 1100 38 16

Federal 124-gr Nyclad HP* 1063 N/A N/A

Triton 125-gr Hi Vel JHP +P* 1245 N/A N/A
Corbon 124-gr XTP +P* 1229 N/A N/A
Corbon 125-gr JHP +P 1188 43 17

Winchester 127-gr JHP +P+
RA9TA 1246 33 13
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I believe there is a website called ballistics by the inch that may be if some help...
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Get a G27 with a Storm Lake G27 40-9mm conversion barrel and have both! I did...

Also a G23 40-9mm will fit in the G27 as well and give you a full 4.02" gun.
Speer GDHP 9mm 124 +P run 1220 fps 410 E from a 4" barrel.
+1 on the 27 and you have both
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Old 02-17-2012, 20:54   #8
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Federal 180 gr JHP
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1005 404 180.9
G 23 962 370 173.2
G 27 913 333 164.4

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Remington 180gr Golden Saber (sample size: 1/ea)
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 n/a n/a n/a
G 23 961 369 173.0
G 27 934 349 168.1

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Speer Lawman 180gr TMJ
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 991 392 178.3
G 23 967 374 174.0
G 27 914 334 164.5

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Federal 155gr Hydra-shok
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1154 458 178.9
G 23 1107 422 171.6
G 27 1077 399 166.9

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Speer Gold Dot 155gr JHP
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1245 534 193.0
G 23 1210 504 187.6
G 27 1148 454 177.9 ***

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Winchester 155gr Silvertip
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1188 486 184.1
G 23 1131 440 175.3
G 27 1082 403 167.8

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Cor-Bon 135 gr JHP
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Eagle 5.1 1335 535 180.3
G 23 1258 474 169.8
G 27 1210 439 163.4
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I wanted to see the energy statistics too
that seems a bit pretentious but try here: http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/40sw.html and here http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/9mm.html and here http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html and here http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/40sw.html
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what exactly are you trying to stop that you dont think 11 rounds of 9mm wouldnt work....
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Old 02-17-2012, 21:38   #11
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what exactly are you trying to stop that you dont think 11 rounds of 9mm wouldnt work....
Oh No,
Not another Bear gun thread - LOL!
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Federal 180 gr JHP
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1005 404 180.9
G 23 962 370 173.2
G 27 913 333 164.4

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Remington 180gr Golden Saber (sample size: 1/ea)
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 n/a n/a n/a
G 23 961 369 173.0
G 27 934 349 168.1

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Speer Lawman 180gr TMJ
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 991 392 178.3
G 23 967 374 174.0
G 27 914 334 164.5

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Federal 155gr Hydra-shok
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1154 458 178.9
G 23 1107 422 171.6
G 27 1077 399 166.9

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Speer Gold Dot 155gr JHP
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1245 534 193.0
G 23 1210 504 187.6
G 27 1148 454 177.9 ***

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Winchester 155gr Silvertip
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1188 486 184.1
G 23 1131 440 175.3
G 27 1082 403 167.8

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Cor-Bon 135 gr JHP
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1335 535 180.3
G 23 1258 474 169.8
G 27 1210 439 163.4
It looks as though the average velocity difference between a g23 and g27 for these loads is approximately 35-45 fps...just a guess by looking at the differences in velocity. The differences in the velocities for each load are pretty close to 25, 50, 25, 50, 25, 50fps...
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Old 02-17-2012, 23:28   #13
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I love my G26. With the new hollowpoints on the market I don't feel underpowered with the 9mm. +P+ ballistics for penetration and expansion are right in line with all the other calibers. My preference is to have the most rounds availabe to me.
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9x19 Win Ranger +P+ |115@1320, 21.7 mv, 444 E|BR 9.6", 0.53", 2.11cu|CL 10.2", 0.65", 3.37cu|avg 2.74, 3.89 re, 0.70
9x19 - caliber
Win Ranger +P+ - the name of the load
115@1320 - bullet mass in grains @ muzzle velocity
21.7 mv - bullet momentum in lb*fps
444 E - muzzle energy in ftlbs
BR - what follows is the data for bare gelatin
9.6" inches of penetration
0.53", final expanded diameter of bullet
2.11 cu, approximation of wound volume. (this does not take into account the expansion profile as a function of depth, but it should be roughly proportionate to actual wound volume)
CL - what follows is the data for clothed gelatin
same fields as the bare gelatin, as defined above
avg 2.74 - Average wound volume, clothed and bare gelatin
3.89 re - Free Recoil Energy, assuming a 1.88 lb pistol
0.70 - Average would volume per unit Free Recoil Energy.
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9x19 Win Ranger Talon|147@ 864, 18.1 mv, 243 E|BR 13.8", 0.61", 4.03cu|CL 15.2", 0.59", 4.17cu|avg 4.10, 2.72 re, 1.51
9x19 Win Ranger Talon|147@1017, 21.4 mv, 337 E|BR 13.8", 0.66", 4.70cu|CL 15.5", 0.65", 5.14cu|avg 4.92, 3.77 re, 1.31
9x19 Win Ranger +P+ |115@1320, 21.7 mv, 444 E|BR 9.6", 0.53", 2.11cu|CL 10.2", 0.65", 3.37cu|avg 2.74, 3.89 re, 0.70
9x19 3-D |115@1178, 19.4 mv, 354 E|BR 11.6", 0.54", 2.66cu|CL 13.9", 0.48", 2.52cu|avg 2.59, 3.10 re, 0.84
9x19 Rem +P+ |115@1221, 20.1 mv, 380 E|BR 10.8", 0.63", 3.37cu|CL 10.9", 0.62", 3.29cu|avg 3.33, 3.33 re, 1.00
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |115@1259, 20.7 mv, 404 E|BR 12.3", 0.67", 4.35cu|CL 22.1", 0.40", 2.78cu|avg 3.43, 3.54 re, 0.97
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |115@1197, 19.7 mv, 365 E|BR 12.8", 0.67", 4.51cu|CL 22.6", 0.44", 3.44cu|avg 3.78, 3.20 re, 1.18
9x19 CorBon +P |115@1317, 21.6 mv, 442 E|BR 8.9", 0.52", 1.90cu|CL 10.2", 0.61", 2.98cu|avg 2.44, 3.87 re, 0.63
9x19 Fed +P |115@1237, 20.3 mv, 390 E|BR 11.2", 0.53", 2.48cu|CL 10.6", 0.62", 3.20cu|avg 2.84, 3.41 re, 0.83
9x19 Fed Silvertip |115@1091, 17.9 mv, 304 E|BR 10.1", 0.63", 3.13cu|CL 11.8", 0.58", 3.12cu|avg 3.13, 2.66 re, 1.18
9x19 CCI/Speer GD +P |124@1223, 21.7 mv, 411 E|BR 13.4", 0.68", 4.87cu|CL 20.2", 0.53", 4.47cu|avg 4.64, 3.88 re, 1.20
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |124@1116, 19.8 mv, 342 E|BR 11.8", 0.69", 4.41cu|CL 22.0", 0.36", 2.24cu|avg 3.22, 3.23 re, 1.00
9x19 Rem |124@1109, 19.6 mv, 338 E|BR 12.4", 0.60", 3.52cu|CL 13.7", 0.57", 3.50cu|avg 3.51, 3.19 re, 1.10
9x19 PMC/Eldorado SF |124@1118, 19.8 mv, 344 E|BR 10.7", 0.63", 3.32cu|CL 20.1", 0.41", 2.65cu|avg 2.98, 3.24 re, 0.92
9x19 CorBon XTP |124@1123, 19.9 mv, 347 E|BR 13.9", 0.56", 3.44cu|CL 18.3", 0.46", 3.04cu|avg 3.24, 3.27 re, 0.99
9x19 Fed HydraShok |147@ 935, 19.6 mv, 285 E|BR 13.6", 0.60", 3.85cu|CL 16.1", 0.52", 3.41cu|avg 3.63, 3.19 re, 1.14
9x19 Win Black Talon |147@ 946, 19.9 mv, 292 E|BR 14.8", 0.60", 4.20cu|CL 16.4", 0.61", 4.78cu|avg 4.49, 3.26 re, 1.38
9x19 Rem |147@ 987, 20.7 mv, 318 E|BR 18.1", 0.51", 3.71cu|CL 15.9", 0.59", 4.36cu|avg 4.03, 3.55 re, 1.14
9x19 Hornady XTP |147@ 918, 19.3 mv, 275 E|BR 22.1", 0.44", 3.36cu|CL 20.5", 0.46", 3.41cu|avg 3.18, 3.07 re, 1.04
9x19 Fed HydraShok |147@ 995, 20.9 mv, 323 E|BR 21.4", 0.37", 2.30cu|CL 15.6", 0.60", 4.41cu|avg 3.28, 3.61 re, 0.91
9x19 Win Silvertip |147@ 902, 18.9 mv, 265 E|BR 14.6", 0.53", 3.22cu|CL 18.1", 0.47", 3.14cu|avg 3.18, 2.97 re, 1.07
9x19 CCI/Speer GD+P |124@1155, 20.5 mv, 367 E|BR 13.2", 0.62", 3.99cu|CL 16.1", 0.53", 3.55cu|avg 3.77, 3.46 re, 1.09
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |124@1068, 18.9 mv, 314 E|BR 12.6", 0.59", 3.44cu|CL 17.5", 0.51", 3.57cu|avg 3.51, 2.96 re, 1.19
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |147@ 924, 19.4 mv, 278 E|BR 14.8", 0.57", 3.78cu|CL 14.7", 0.55", 3.49cu|avg 3.63, 3.11 re, 1.17
9x19 Win Ranger PG |124@1015, 18.0 mv, 283 E|BR 12.5", 0.65", 4.15cu|CL 14.0", 0.61", 4.09cu|avg 4.12, 2.67 re, 1.54
9x19 Win Ranger T |147@1016, 21.3 mv, 337 E|BR 13.8", 0.66", 4.72cu|CL 15.7", 0.00", 0.00cu|avg 2.36, 3.76 re, 0.63
357SIG CCI/Speer GD |125@1372, 24.5 mv, 522 E|BR 16.1", 0.60", 4.54cu|CL 19.1", 0.54", 4.36cu|avg 4.45, 4.96 re, 0.90
40SW Win Ranger Talon|180@1000, 25.7 mv, 399 E|BR 13.6", 0.68", 4.92cu|CL 13.5", 0.68", 4.90cu|avg 4.91, 5.47 re, 0.90
40SW CCI/Speer GD |155@1176, 26.0 mv, 475 E|BR 10.7", 0.84", 5.93cu|CL 18.1", 0.57", 4.62cu|avg 5.27, 5.61 re, 0.94
40SW CCI/Speer GD |155@1186, 26.3 mv, 483 E|BR 10.7", 0.84", 5.93cu|CL 17.7", 0.58", 4.68cu|avg 5.30, 5.70 re, 0.93
40SW Hornady XTP |155@1194, 26.4 mv, 490 E|BR 14.5", 0.65", 4.81cu|CL 18.1", 0.55", 4.30cu|avg 4.56, 5.78 re, 0.79
40SW Win Silvertip |155@1199, 26.5 mv, 494 E|BR 12.2", 0.69", 4.54cu|CL 13.2", 0.71", 5.21cu|avg 4.87, 5.83 re, 0.84
40SW Fed Hi-Shok |155@1167, 25.8 mv, 468 E|BR 13.8", 0.61", 4.02cu|CL 19.5", 0.51", 3.98cu|avg 4.00, 5.52 re, 0.72
40SW CCI/Speer GD |165@1076, 25.4 mv, 424 E|BR 13.1", 0.65", 4.33cu|CL 15.8", 0.60", 4.47cu|avg 4.40, 5.32 re, 0.83
40SW Fed HydraShok |165@1007, 23.7 mv, 371 E|BR 13.8", 0.62", 4.18cu|CL 15.2", 0.64", 4.87cu|avg 4.53, 4.66 re, 0.97
40SW Rem |165@1031, 24.3 mv, 389 E|BR 12.5", 0.67", 4.41cu|CL 16.3", 0.61", 4.76cu|avg 4.59, 4.88 re, 0.94
40SW Fed HydeaShok |165@ 931, 21.9 mv, 317 E|BR 15.8", 0.58", 4.19cu|CL 21.1", 0.43", 3.06cu|avg 3.55, 3.98 re, 0.89
40SW Rem G.S. |165@ 952, 22.4 mv, 332 E|BR 13.1", 0.64", 4.21cu|CL 20.0", 0.53", 4.41cu|avg 4.31, 4.16 re, 1.04
40SW Rem G.S. |165@1022, 24.1 mv, 382 E|BR 14.8", 0.65", 4.89cu|CL 14.3", 0.66", 4.91cu|avg 4.90, 4.80 re, 1.02
40SW Fed HydraShok |165@ 943, 22.2 mv, 325 E|BR 18.2", 0.63", 5.69cu|CL 19.4", 0.56", 4.77cu|avg 5.23, 4.08 re, 1.28
40SW Win Ranger T. |180@ 947, 24.4 mv, 358 E|BR 13.8", 0.69", 5.14cu|CL 13.7", 0.70", 5.25cu|avg 5.20, 4.90 re, 1.06
40SW CCI/Speer GD |180@ 982, 25.3 mv, 385 E|BR 14.5", 0.59", 3.96cu|CL 17.6", 0.60", 4.96cu|avg 4.46, 5.27 re, 0.85
40SW Rem G.S. |180@ 931, 23.9 mv, 346 E|BR 16.8", 0.69", 6.28cu|CL 16.9", 0.63", 5.28cu|avg 5.78, 4.74 re, 1.22
40SW Rem G.S. |180@ 945, 24.3 mv, 356 E|BR 16.9", 0.64", 5.44cu|CL 21.0", 0.43", 3.05cu|avg 4.17, 4.88 re, 0.85
40SW Rem G.S. |180@ 893, 23.0 mv, 318 E|BR 15.7", 0.65", 5.19cu|CL 21.1", 0.51", 4.32cu|avg 4.64, 4.36 re, 1.06
40SW CCI/Speer GD |180@ 958, 24.6 mv, 366 E|BR 14.6", 0.60", 4.13cu|CL 17.1", 0.62", 5.16cu|avg 4.65, 5.02 re, 0.93
40SW Rem G.S. |180@ 954, 24.5 mv, 363 E|BR 14.8", 0.66", 5.06cu|CL 14.8", 0.67", 5.20cu|avg 5.13, 4.98 re, 1.03
40SW Win B.T. |180@ 917, 23.6 mv, 336 E|BR 13.5", 0.69", 5.05cu|CL 14.4", 0.70", 5.54cu|avg 5.29, 4.60 re, 1.15
40SW Hornady XTP |180@ 929, 23.9 mv, 345 E|BR 13.9", 0.64", 4.49cu|CL 18.4", 0.55", 4.38cu|avg 4.44, 4.72 re, 0.94
40SW Fed HydraShok |180@ 969, 24.9 mv, 375 E|BR 14.2", 0.69", 5.29cu|CL 19.8", 0.59", 5.41cu|avg 5.35, 5.13 re, 1.04
40SW Fed Hi-Shok |180@ 960, 24.7 mv, 368 E|BR 14.8", 0.66", 5.05cu|CL 24.0", 0.47", 4.16cu|avg 4.26, 5.04 re, 0.85
40SW Win Ranger SXT |180@ 905, 23.3 mv, 327 E|BR 11.2", 0.70", 4.31cu|CL 13.0", 0.64", 4.18cu|avg 4.25, 4.48 re, 0.95
40SW Win Ranger PG |165@1109, 26.1 mv, 450 E|BR 13.1", 0.73", 5.48cu|CL 14.5", 0.72", 5.90cu|avg 5.69, 5.65 re, 1.01
40SW Win Ranger T |180@ 943, 24.2 mv, 355 E|BR 13.6", 0.68", 4.94cu|CL 14.6", 0.70", 5.62cu|avg 5.28, 4.86 re, 1.09

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Old 02-18-2012, 00:26   #15
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the .40 cal round might travel slower than a 9mm, but when you are shooting at something, whatever it is isn't going to be able to move fast enough to get out of the way. you can easily increase the capacity of the 27 with +1 extension. i have pearce +1 grips on all my 27 mags. keeps the frame manageable but gives you the extra round...good fit for medium sized hands. i've always been biased to the .40 cal - solid ballistics and great stopping power. i find that round easy to control, even with a subcompact weapon and hold it as my "standard". you and your fiancee can shoot well with a 27 with practice. seems like a no brainer to me...especially since you can get a conversion barrel for the 27 and make it a 9mm, like previously stated.
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Anyone who has been on this forum for awhile has seen a lot more "I had a 27 but..." posts than "I had a 26 but..." ones.

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I went with the 26, I have a few 23s & others to handle the 40s.
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I ended up buying both. With good self defense loads I don't really feel much of a difference in recoil. With Wally World practice ammo the 9mm (G26) is a soft shooter but the .40 (G27) still feels close to the recoil of the self defense loads. While I like the G27, I would recommend the G26 over it even though my other Glocks are not in 9mm.

Really you should try to go shoot both with self defense ammo and bulk ammo and make your choice from your experience.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:35   #19
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The first firearm I was issued was a H&K .40 USP Compact. It was a decent gun. When I had to buy a duty weapon for my new job, I stuck with .40 and got a Glock 23. I shot well with it, but after 200+ rounds, the web of my hand was red and sore.

Waaaa *sniff, sniff*, I know.

I went to the range and tried a Glock 19 in 9mm. WOW. Big difference. I was firing quickly and putting rounds right where I wanted them. So I bought the Glock 19 and a 26 to carry OD/BUG. I LOVE my 26. I can shoot the 26 as well as the 19 even at distance.

Some people say there isn't a big difference in recoil between 9mm and .40. Eh, it's not big enough to affect a good shooter. However, .40 IS more snappy. To me, if I wanted something with "stopping power" (stupid term!), I'd go with .45. I'm very pleased with 9mm in +p as my duty ammo.

Go with the Glock 26. You won't be disappointed. Just get good ammo to carry in it. Don't buy some cheap crap.

Not a fan of the .40 round at all anymore. I was when I knew little about firearms.
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Get a G27 with a Storm Lake G27 40-9mm conversion barrel and have both! I did...

Also a G23 40-9mm will fit in the G27 as well and give you a full 4.02" gun.
Speer GDHP 9mm 124 +P run 1220 fps 410 E from a 4" barrel.
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Nice, barth! I didn't know there was Pachmayr like that for the G26/27, I've only seen the smaller one but this one fits the grip nicely like their G22 and G23 version. Where did you find it? Thanks for any info.
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