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Old 02-08-2012, 18:35   #51
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Well said brother, I 100% agree. This may sound a bit crazy, but if I knew I would survive, I would take a bullet for a LEO. Especially the ones I know personally where I live.
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Did I read this right??????
Him and other pretenders like him. Out on the streets. Scary, isn't it?
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Old 02-08-2012, 19:51   #52
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One day, back in the day when I still had to do...

So we're moving back towards the secret handshakes again?

As stated by the cognescenti here, going to a self sponsored academy without an agency endorsement/job and spouting opinion like a veteran doesn't confer cop status.
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Old 02-08-2012, 20:57   #53
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Him and other pretenders like him. Out on the streets. Scary, isn't it?
I'm not a pretender, I dont go around telling people I am a cop. I am NOT a cop.

Its a bad thing that I would take a bullet for a real LEO?
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Old 02-08-2012, 21:00   #54
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Oh god, as there are now more and more self-sponsored academies, are all them graduates going to claim they're LEOs?

Fakers and wannabes putting themselves through academies so they can better fool the public. GREAT!
I never once claimed on this forum that I was a LEO
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Old 02-08-2012, 21:15   #55
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Really? When would you think that time could come for you?
Tell you what Mr. Moderator, you and your friends can ridicule me all you like, call me every name in the book, say whatever you want. If you believe that I cannot hack it on this forum then just CLOSE every thread I have ever started or will start. Hell, why not just shut down my account on here? Maybe that would make life better for everyone on here? Just get rid of me. Get rid of another "fake".

I never once proclaimed I was a police officer nor did I ever try to give the impression that I was. All I said was that i went through the academy. Thats it. That is all. I'm done. I give up.

I need to keep my ****ing nose out of these god damn forums.
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Old 02-08-2012, 22:00   #56
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Tell you what Mr. Moderator, you and your friends can ridicule me all you like, call me every name in the book, say whatever you want. If you believe that I cannot hack it on this forum then just CLOSE every thread I have ever started or will start. Hell, why not just shut down my account on here? Maybe that would make life better for everyone on here? Just get rid of me. Get rid of another "fake".

I never once proclaimed I was a police officer nor did I ever try to give the impression that I was. All I said was that i went through the academy. Thats it. That is all. I'm done. I give up.

I need to keep my ****ing nose out of these god damn forums.

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Just take a break and cool off, and think about this for a bit. I chose to refrain from comment, but I can understand why some folks responded as they did.

The regulars here are good people, and in time, you will very likely start to fit in, and Cop Talk will then start to focus on the next FNG. There is a lot to learn here.

Life goes on.
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Old 02-08-2012, 22:17   #57
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Tell you what Mr. Moderator, you and your friends can ridicule me all you like, call me every name in the book, say whatever you want. If you believe that I cannot hack it on this forum then just CLOSE every thread I have ever started or will start. Hell, why not just shut down my account on here? Maybe that would make life better for everyone on here? Just get rid of me. Get rid of another "fake".

I never once proclaimed I was a police officer nor did I ever try to give the impression that I was. All I said was that i went through the academy. Thats it. That is all. I'm done. I give up.

I need to keep my ****ing nose out of these god damn forums.
If you want to be a cop, you better grow some thicker skin...and it isnt because of what the knuckleheads on the street will say to you. Catching crap from your fellow Officers is simply part of the culture.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:12   #58
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Just take a break and cool off, and think about this for a bit. I chose to refrain from comment, but I can understand why some folks responded as they did.

The regulars here are good people, and in time, you will very likely start to fit in, and Cop Talk will then start to focus on the next FNG. There is a lot to learn here.

Life goes on.
Thanks. I will take a break and cool off. Things have been a bit rough lately and the last thing I needed was to be ridiculed on here.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:20   #59
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If you want to be a cop, you better grow some thicker skin...and it isnt because of what the knuckleheads on the street will say to you. Catching crap from your fellow Officers is simply part of the culture.
That was one of the first things our instructors told us in the academy. One of our instructors told us that it was "cop culture" to bust each other's balls. We had no problem ripping on each other in the academy. I took a lotta crap in life and was able to go through the academy with no problem. In fact, one of the instructors commended me on how well I was able to handle myself.

I'm gonna take some time and cool off. I know its a rite of passage on here to heckle and rag on the FNG.

Sorry I blew up the way I did.

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Old 02-09-2012, 07:58   #60
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Well said brother, I 100% agree. This may sound a bit crazy, but if I knew I would survive, I would take a bullet for a LEO. Especially the ones I know personally where I live.
This is what people have an issue with I think.

If I see someone about to execute an officer and I'm armed, I will intervene. Cop or not. If I get shot and killed, then thats the way the cards fell. You don't know that you will survive every day. Is that the goal? Absolutely. But don't for a second think that every cop here isn't prepared to die. If they aren't, they are in the wrong line of work. If you aren't going to do something because you might die (but preparing and fighting to stay alive) then you shouldn't be a cop.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:07   #61
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Well said brother, I 100% agree. This may sound a bit crazy, but if I knew I would survive, I would take a bullet for a LEO. Especially the ones I know personally where I live.
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Do you have any idea, any idea at all what you just posted?

You say you've been through an academy and you want to go into law enforcement.

When do you expect that mindset to change???
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This is what people have an issue with I think.

If I see someone about to execute an officer and I'm armed, I will intervene. Cop or not. If I get shot and killed, then thats the way the cards fell. You don't know that you will survive every day. Is that the goal? Absolutely. But don't for a second think that every cop here isn't prepared to die. If they aren't, they are in the wrong line of work. If you aren't going to do something because you might die (but preparing and fighting to stay alive) then you shouldn't be a cop.
My bold in merlynusn's post to tie into my bold in your post, YtownGlock.

My question above in bold blue stands. Have you thought about it?
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:22   #62
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http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2921.23

ORC 2921.23 Failure to aid a law enforcement officer.
(A) No person shall negligently fail or refuse to aid a law enforcement officer, when called upon for assistance in preventing or halting the commission of an offense, or in apprehending or detaining an offender, when such aid can be given without a substantial risk of physical harm to the person giving it.

(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of failure to aid a law enforcement officer, a minor misdemeanor.

Effective Date: 01-01-1974
Bottom line would appear to be:

you have to be called upon for assistance

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not reasonably fear you will get killed in the process (like jumping into a gunfight)

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A long, long time ago, this topic came up. The discussion was a bit heated.

A Sgt. with the Norfolk PD here in Virginia participated. His belief was that citizens should not get involved.

I asked him how he would feel if I did intervene, stopped the bad guy from murdering him, but I was killed instead of him. He said, "I would tell your wife and family that you were a fool."

I asked him what his wife and family would say to that. He never answered the question.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:06   #64
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My bold in merlynusn's post to tie into my bold in your post, YtownGlock.

My question above in bold blue stands. Have you thought about it?
Wow... I am an idiot. Once again I have posted before properly thinking through what I typed. I apologize for that. I shouldn't have said "IF I knew I would survive."

I don't fear death. The thought of it though is scary as heck but if and when the time comes that I need to put myself in harms way to preserve the life of another, I will do so.

Sorry, I didn't understand what you were getting at until I read over what I posted a few times. Sorry for the mishap.
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A long, long time ago, this topic came up. The discussion was a bit heated.

A Sgt. with the Norfolk PD here in Virginia participated. His belief was that citizens should not get involved.

I asked him how he would feel if I did intervene, stopped the bad guy from murdering him, but I was killed instead of him. He said, "I would tell your wife and family that you were a fool."

I asked him what his wife and family would say to that. He never answered the question.
I'm speechless...
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Old 02-09-2012, 20:25   #66
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Damn, RussP, is that thread still around?
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Old 02-09-2012, 20:34   #67
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you're not the only one...
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I know its a rite of passage on here to heckle and rag on the FNG.

Sorry I blew up the way I did.
Not necessarily so, and not just the FNGs. There is an active thread on this forum that clearly shows this. This person has been posting here for quite some time, and took a torpedo. Broadside. We are all accountable.

Have you thought about working in Corrections, or Detention, and gaining some experience and a reference? You may end up staying on long-term once you swim with the sharks for a while. Some of us belong behind bars.
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Not necessarily so, and not just the FNGs. There is an active thread on this page that clearly shows this. This person has been posting here for quite some time, and took a torpedo. Broadside.

Have you thought about working in Corrections, or Detention, and gaining some experience and a reference? You may end up staying on long-term once you swim with the sharks for a while. Some of us belong behind bars.
I thought about Corrections, I have been on some tours (via ride-alongs and the academy) through the local county jail and I wasn't very fond of it. I was told that if I were to get a reserve position (an easy way to get my commission faster) that I would have to work like a minimum of 32 hours a month working at the jail. And with the CSO where I live having a really bad budget, I'm not too fond of being stuck in a pod for several hours with nearly 50 inmates.

I have my references from when I worked Liquor control and enforcement with a neighboring PD. Was very successful with it and excelled in the courtroom when I testified. Got to work with a great group of guys from OIU and got to meet some cool guys from BCI. I performed quite well. Of course, they also busted my balls at times, but it was all fun and games. I enjoyed it.

I also work in private security and have an awesome working relationship with the local PD. We're always giving each other a hand. I've established a lot of good and strong relationships with the officers both locally and within the entire county.

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Damn, RussP, is that thread still around?
Unfortunately, no.
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ytown dont let this bother you,99 percent of these guys on these forums are wannabes thereselves and are behind the scene actors,They like to make fun of how you type or how you phrase something,But in the real world,LE,Military and other Agencies dont come to these gun forums and post,So dont let them tell you they are all LE here or other forums!!Russ you seem to enjoy to poke fun at folks until they return the favor huh?

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ytown dont let this bother you,99 percent of these guys on these forums are wannabes thereselves and are behind the scene actors,They like to make fun of how you type or how you phrase something,But in the real world,LE,Military and other Agencies dont come to these gun forums and post,So dont let them tell you they are all LE here or other forums!!
So you are saying that 99% of the people posting in this thread, challenging YtownGlock, are not who they say they are, that they are not in LE, retired LE? Are you saying they are lying about being in law enforcement?

For the record, I am not and you are not. There are 20 people posting in this thread, so 10% are not in the business. And you believe the remaining 80% most likely are not either?
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Russ you seem to enjoy to poke fun at folks until they return the favor huh?
What are you talking about?
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ytown dont let this bother you,99 percent of these guys on these forums are wannabes thereselves and are behind the scene actors,They like to make fun of how you type or how you phrase something,But in the real world,LE,Military and other Agencies dont come to these gun forums and post,So dont let them tell you they are all LE here or other forums!!Russ you seem to enjoy to poke fun at folks until they return the favor huh?
Crap. The secret is out.

This thread is full of win.

And if I am shot, on my back, looking down the barrel of the would be killer's gun and some jogger comes up and double taps him from behind.....

The jogger just made a friend for life.

And likewise, when I am done with this line of work and I am out and about, and the scenario mentioned in the OP arises, I'll be the one running up behind the shooter with a suprise in store.

Legalities/liabilities aside....no way I could stand by and watch two people murdered in front of me without acting to prevent it. I have mirrors to look into each and every day.
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