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Old 12-31-2011, 07:27   #76
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I wanted to chime in on this yesterday but got sidetracked. Anyway...

I would suggest that the number of threads and discussions on the Internet on enthusiast boards is not a fair indicator of how popular an item actually is. Examples:

1) According to the Internet the best long-range target rifles are .300 Magnums, 7mm Magnums and really big honkin' rifles (.338 Lapua anybody?). Yet when I go to a 600 yard match, I see lots of .308s, 6mmXC, 6.5x308s, and .223s, maybe a .284 and rarely a .300 of any sort.

2) According to the Internet rifle-crank fan base, the .260 Remington is the perfect low-recoil deer rifle. Yet there is a Model 7 so chambered at one my LGS's that I'm pretty sure has sat on the used rack for a year or more now, unloved.

3) According to the Internet the 10mm Auto is on the rise. Yet I've never seen one being used at the local pistol range, seen maybe 2-3 total ever for sale at the LGS's and rarely find spent 10mm cases at the range. The last ones I spotted were aluminum CCI Blazers, and I suspect it's one person who is a regular, not multiple shooters.

4) According to the Internet anybody who walks into the great wilderness without at least a 10mm or .44 Magnum handgun is begging to get eaten and accosted. If you don't have a pistol capable of driving a hardcast slug through a Zombie Grizzly end-to-end, you're just not thinking clearly. And if you're West of the Mississippi in real animal country? Better get a real gun and leave those 10mms and .44s at home!

There, I feel better now!
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Old 12-31-2011, 12:27   #77
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Nonsense

They can't keep them in stock because they are so few in numbers to begin with and the 10mm fanatics jump on them like they may not see another one...which they might!

Try selling one at a gun store or gun show around here, might as well be selling a dirty diaper. Unless you hit the one 10mm fan running around.

Who are these new custom ammo makers? DT, Swamp Fox, Buffalo Bore are know who else? And what is "priced well"?

Embracing it? Well the why aren't the big manufactures added 10mm's to their lineups? Afterall if their is so much profit in it why not?
I don't know about your gun stores nor do I care about your part of the country.

I stopped by one of my LGS's after work yesterday to pick up more brass for my 10mm and XTP's in .45 acp, 9mm, 10mm, .38/.357 and my 7.62x25. I never purchase retail ammo. Range, HD and SD ammo is all reloaded or newly built by the wife and I.

While there a nice lady was purchasing new 10mm's. A G29, G20 and a Night Guard in 10mm. And put a DE in layaway! My wife looked at me surprised as hell this little gal built much like her and approx. the same age was going to take on this hard hitting expensive to shoot 10mm.

My wife struck up a conversation with this lady after she made her purchase of weapons and 500 rounds of assorted 10mm ammo. They walked off to a quieter part of the LGS and chatted for a bit. They came back and my wife introduced me to her and informed me we have a pending dinner and range date with her and her husband next.

When we got in the car she told me she wanted to shoot my G20 before the dinner and range date. So she will be shooting her first 10mm in about two hours from now.

Does this prove 10mm is on the rise? It is with this little lady. And I have a feeling my wife is going to want a G29 to replace her Mod 60 Pro as her HD and range weapon after she shoots mine and this gals 29. And I hope she is on the path to making a female shooting and range buddy. Who knows,,, maybe this gals husband and I will hit it off. And we will both have new shooting buddy's.

What the 10mm did do is bring some folks together. And possibly get my wife a bit more hooked on shooting.
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Old 12-31-2011, 12:30   #78
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I don't know about your gun stores nor do I care about your part of the country.

What the 10mm did do is bring some folks together. And possibly get my wife a bit more hooked on shooting.
Great at least the 10mm did something useful
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I don't know about your gun stores nor do I care about your part of the country.

I stopped by one of my LGS's after work yesterday to pick up more brass for my 10mm and XTP's in .45 acp, 9mm, 10mm, .38/.357 and my 7.62x25. I never purchase retail ammo. Range, HD and SD ammo is all reloaded or newly built by the wife and I.

While there a nice lady was purchasing new 10mm's. A G29, G20 and a Night Guard in 10mm. And put a DE in layaway! My wife looked at me surprised as hell this little gal built much like her and approx. the same age was going to take on this hard hitting expensive to shoot 10mm.

My wife struck up a conversation with this lady after she made her purchase of weapons and 500 rounds of assorted 10mm ammo. They walked off to a quieter part of the LGS and chatted for a bit. They came back and my wife introduced me to her and informed me we have a pending dinner and range date with her and her husband next.

When we got in the car she told me she wanted to shoot my G20 before the dinner and range date. So she will be shooting her first 10mm in about two hours from now.

Does this prove 10mm is on the rise? It is with this little lady. And I have a feeling my wife is going to want a G29 to replace her Mod 60 Pro as her HD and range weapon after she shoots mine and this gals 29. And I hope she is on the path to making a female shooting and range buddy. Who knows,,, maybe this gals husband and I will hit it off. And we will both have new shooting buddy's.

What the 10mm did do is bring some folks together. And possibly get my wife a bit more hooked on shooting.
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I wanted to chime in on this yesterday but got sidetracked. Anyway...

I would suggest that the number of threads and discussions on the Internet on enthusiast boards is not a fair indicator of how popular an item actually is. Examples:

1) According to the Internet the best long-range target rifles are .300 Magnums, 7mm Magnums and really big honkin' rifles (.338 Lapua anybody?). Yet when I go to a 600 yard match, I see lots of .308s, 6mmXC, 6.5x308s, and .223s, maybe a .284 and rarely a .300 of any sort.

2) According to the Internet rifle-crank fan base, the .260 Remington is the perfect low-recoil deer rifle. Yet there is a Model 7 so chambered at one my LGS's that I'm pretty sure has sat on the used rack for a year or more now, unloved.

3) According to the Internet the 10mm Auto is on the rise. Yet I've never seen one being used at the local pistol range, seen maybe 2-3 total ever for sale at the LGS's and rarely find spent 10mm cases at the range. The last ones I spotted were aluminum CCI Blazers, and I suspect it's one person who is a regular, not multiple shooters.

4) According to the Internet anybody who walks into the great wilderness without at least a 10mm or .44 Magnum handgun is begging to get eaten and accosted. If you don't have a pistol capable of driving a hardcast slug through a Zombie Grizzly end-to-end, you're just not thinking clearly. And if you're West of the Mississippi in real animal country? Better get a real gun and leave those 10mms and .44s at home!

There, I feel better now!
I don't know about the rest of 'em, but I couldn't be happier with my .260. It recoils like a .22, drops deer in their tracks out to at least 330 yards (longs shot I've taken), and I can shoot fairly accurately out to 600 yards (I'm not that great of a shot, the gun is far more capable than I am). If I ran across a used, but not abused, .260 for a good price, I'd grab it for a backup.
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Old 12-31-2011, 16:08   #81
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For me, the popularity of the 10mm is on the rise.

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4) According to the Internet anybody who walks into the great wilderness without at least a 10mm or .44 Magnum handgun is begging to get eaten and accosted. If you don't have a pistol capable of driving a hardcast slug through a Zombie Grizzly end-to-end, you're just not thinking clearly. And if you're West of the Mississippi in real animal country? Better get a real gun and leave those 10mms and .44s at home!

There, I feel better now!
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I'm a big 10mm fan. I have the G20 and G29 and am really surprised that I don't have a 1911 in 10mm...yet.
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I wanted to chime in on this yesterday but got sidetracked. Anyway...

I would suggest that the number of threads and discussions on the Internet on enthusiast boards is not a fair indicator of how popular an item actually is. Examples:

1) According to the Internet the best long-range target rifles are .300 Magnums, 7mm Magnums and really big honkin' rifles (.338 Lapua anybody?). Yet when I go to a 600 yard match, I see lots of .308s, 6mmXC, 6.5x308s, and .223s, maybe a .284 and rarely a .300 of any sort.

2) According to the Internet rifle-crank fan base, the .260 Remington is the perfect low-recoil deer rifle. Yet there is a Model 7 so chambered at one my LGS's that I'm pretty sure has sat on the used rack for a year or more now, unloved.

3) According to the Internet the 10mm Auto is on the rise. Yet I've never seen one being used at the local pistol range, seen maybe 2-3 total ever for sale at the LGS's and rarely find spent 10mm cases at the range. The last ones I spotted were aluminum CCI Blazers, and I suspect it's one person who is a regular, not multiple shooters.

4) According to the Internet anybody who walks into the great wilderness without at least a 10mm or .44 Magnum handgun is begging to get eaten and accosted. If you don't have a pistol capable of driving a hardcast slug through a Zombie Grizzly end-to-end, you're just not thinking clearly. And if you're West of the Mississippi in real animal country? Better get a real gun and leave those 10mms and .44s at home!

There, I feel better now!

Yeah but number 4 is true though. I read it in caliber corner.
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I want a Ruger GP100 & SP101 in 10mm.
I asked about the SP when I had my GP100 done and he said it wasn't possible, just not enough there to work with.
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I purchased a used G20 here a while back and hadn't had a chance to shoot it yet. So I went with a fellow glocktalker to a shoot in Beckley WV last night to shoot it for the first time. shot a 480 out of 500. Not bad for the first time around.
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I checked out the new Colt Delta Elite on Colt's website Friday. They sent me to my local gun store. I headed over to the gun store to buy one, but they told me they have been unable to get them in. I wonder what this means? Can't Colt keep up with demand? Is their run so limited that they are all sold out already?
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I checked out the new Colt Delta Elite on Colt's website Friday. They sent me to my local gun store. I headed over to the gun store to buy one, but they told me they have been unable to get them in. I wonder what this means? Can't Colt keep up with demand? Is their run so limited that they are all sold out already?
It means Colt, who is trying to get their act togeather from a commercial standpoint, hasn't gotten there yet.
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I checked out the new Colt Delta Elite on Colt's website Friday. They sent me to my local gun store. I headed over to the gun store to buy one, but they told me they have been unable to get them in. I wonder what this means? Can't Colt keep up with demand? Is their run so limited that they are all sold out already?
Its probably a little of both. 10mm fans will gobble up almost any 10mm that pops up, a few non 10mm shooters may want a DE for the history of the gun and finally its unlikely Colt produces them on a constant basis and if they do its probably only the amount they need to be profitable. The gun is probably a limited run gun likely.

No matter what 10mm supporters want to believe or hope for, 10mm guns just don't sell well, not in large or even moderate scale numbers.
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No matter what 10mm supporters want to believe or hope for, 10mm guns just don't sell well, not in large or even moderate scale numbers.
What it boils down to is that, while the 10mm chambering may not be one of the most popular, it should be.

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Its probably a little of both. 10mm fans will gobble up almost any 10mm that pops up, a few non 10mm shooters may want a DE for the history of the gun and finally its unlikely Colt produces them on a constant basis and if they do its probably only the amount they need to be profitable. The gun is probably a limited run gun likely.

No matter what 10mm supporters want to believe or hope for, 10mm guns just don't sell well, not in large or even moderate scale numbers.
So, let me get this straight, "Its probably a little of both. 10mm fans, will gobble up almost any 10mm that pops up, a few non 10mm shooters may want a DE for the history of the gun"! Then your opinion, " No matter what, 10mm supporters, want to believe, or hope for, 10mm guns just don't sell well, not in large or even moderate scale numbers". Yet there are those of us, that want to purchase them, yet never can because of not enough being produced. I guess it is, "your opinion" that is the accurate one in this thread.
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I love my G20 and I've carried it before when camping in bear country. I'd love to see the 10mm on the rise- ammo is currently too expensive for me to get out and practice much with my G20.
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What it boils down to is that, while the 10mm chambering may not be one of the most popular, it should be.

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If the 40SW never happened, and the 10mm took off like it could/should have, there would be a lot more of us shooting 10mm.

As for the the 10mm "being on the rise", I guess it's just like the conomy getting better. Maybe it is, but 1.5% GPD and 9% unemployment isn't exactly a recovery.
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So, let me get this straight, "Its probably a little of both. 10mm fans, will gobble up almost any 10mm that pops up, a few non 10mm shooters may want a DE for the history of the gun"! Then your opinion, " No matter what, 10mm supporters, want to believe, or hope for, 10mm guns just don't sell well, not in large or even moderate scale numbers". Yet there are those of us, that want to purchase them, yet never can because of not enough being produced. I guess it is, "your opinion" that is the accurate one in this thread.
Well when I say 10mm fans remember there are so few of you overall. And only a very few will add {A} 10mm to the stable. If there were more of you then 10mm's would be made by more gunmakers than the current offerings available. Facts are stubborn things.

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What factual evidence shows the 10mm on the rise?
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What factual evidence shows the 10mm on the rise?
The same factual evidence that shows there is no inflation.

Actually, SAAMI keeps track of the guns sold, ammo sold, and reloading dies sold by caliber. I don't know to get that info since most SAAMI stuff is members only.
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