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08-04-2011, 14:15
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Hunting with a 10mm and 45acp Glock
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08-04-2011, 14:33
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luv the 10mm!
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08-04-2011, 14:36
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Awesome vid, thanks for sharing... 
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08-04-2011, 14:44
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awesome!
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08-04-2011, 14:51
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Nice 
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08-04-2011, 15:05
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That was alright. Now its final gotta get myself a kkm conversion for my 21. Thanks for that
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08-04-2011, 15:05
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Cool!
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08-04-2011, 15:39
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Originally Posted by BigA
That was alright. Now its final gotta get myself a kkm conversion for my 21. Thanks for that
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Good Luck, I have had a 10MM conversion barrel on backorder for going on 2 months at Glockmeister they have none for the G21 or the G30. I couldnt fine anyone with them, but I can wait!
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08-04-2011, 16:14
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10mm rocks.
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10mm.......the original .40
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08-04-2011, 21:22
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10mm is awesome.
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Originally Posted by Wolf Spyder
"Only large manly men and very dangerous mythical creatures can handle the raw power of the 10mm"
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08-04-2011, 22:24
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May be a noob question but why 10mm over other calibers to hunt with?
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08-04-2011, 22:28
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When he dropped that big buck right in his tracks! Wow! 10mm baby. And I like that he looks at handgun hunting with a Glock like bow hunting. Same principles. You have to have a close shot , be stealthy and be ethical..
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08-04-2011, 22:32
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The G20 with the six inch barrel does nice work on Monterey County wild pigs, too. Great sausage, let me tell you.
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08-04-2011, 22:57
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I imagine shot placement isn't so critical when punching .45+" holes in nutria!
Gotta love the extended barrels they use, which make all the difference in .45 ballistics. I have a 6.6" SS LWD barrel and a #24 spring that I put in one of my G21SF's when I head out into bear country. Those 255 gr. Buffalo Bore hard-cast lead flatnoses don't slow down for much.
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08-05-2011, 05:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfire SVT
May be a noob question but why 10mm over other calibers to hunt with?
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Because hot 10mm rounds have about twice the power (energy) of a decent 9mm round. Here are some ESTIMATES of power figures for hot loaded ammunition in the big three calibers vs. 10mm:
9mm: 400-450ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle
.40S&W: 425-500ft-lbs
.45ACP: 425-500ft-lbs
10mm: 700-800ft-lbs
I KNOW that there might be some 9mm, .40S&W, or .45ACP load out there that beats those numbers, but they are just general ranges that should encompass 99% of defensive "hot" loads.
Just yesterday I went and chronographed a bunch of 10mm rounds. This is out of my G29, so add another 75-100fps for a full-size G20 (or add about 150fps to get an idea of what that guy was using in the video). I fired a 165gr Gold Dot at 1426fps (745ft-lbs), and a 135gr Nosler JHP at 1626fps (792ft-lbs). The guy in that video was using a G20 with a 6" barrel. Those two loads I mentioned would be making 825ft-lbs and 866ft-lbs respectively out of a STOCK G20 w/ 4.6" barrel. I imagine they would be over 900ft-lbs out of a 6" barrel. That's nearly double the energy of a 9mm, .40S&W, or .45ACP. But, obviously, the .45ACP held it's own. The guy used one in the video.
Most 10mm hunters tend to use either hardcast lead bullets of about 200gr at 1250-1300fps, or 180-200gr Hornady XTPs at 1400 or 1300fps. Those are some serious pistol loads, especially for an auto. That kills .357Magnum, and approaches the lower end of .41Magnum.
OP, AWESOME video, BTW. I'm going to post a link in the 10 Ring. I hope you don't mind.
Last edited by 21Carrier; 08-05-2011 at 05:16..
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08-05-2011, 21:42
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I wish LWD would make a 8 inch 10mm replacement barrel....
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08-05-2011, 21:55
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Alright!!! Someone that thinks just about like I do!!! 
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08-05-2011, 21:59
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Oh by the way, awesome video! Now I gotta go find me a rat to shoot in the head!!!
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08-05-2011, 22:31
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As was said above...
A standard 9mm has a muzzle energy of about 300 to 350 Ft. Lbs.
A standard .40S&W or .45ACP has a muzzle energy of about 400 to 450 Ft. Lbs.
A standard "Full Power" 10mm has a muzzle energy of about 550 to 650 Ft. Lbs. but the real reason is that at the 100 yard mark the 10mm still delivers around 500 Ft. Lbs. of energy. Even better is "Nuclear Power" or "Hot" 10mm loads have any where from 700 to as much as 850 Ft. Lbs. of energy at the muzzle. Couple that power with a Glock 20 in 10mm and you have a service sized side arm loaded with 15 rounds or 17 rounds in the magazine. It is hard to beat.
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08-14-2011, 08:42
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Can a 45acp+P in a 6 inch G21 barrel reap any benefits ?
Who could make a 8inch G20 barrel?
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08-14-2011, 09:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogman 10x
Can a 45acp+P in a 6 inch G21 barrel reap any benefits ?
Who could make a 8inch G20 barrel?
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Yeah, you'll always get more velocity out of a longer barrel. More velocity equals more energy, which will almost always be better (as long as you don't grossly over-drive a bullet's design). A 6" .45ACP barrel would probably gain about 100fps (+/- 30fps) over the 4.6" barrel of a stock G21. The longer the barrel, the more time the bullet is in the barrel, and the longer the expanding gasses from the gunpowder have to do work on the bullet. All of that equals more velocity. If you're hunting with a pistol, conceal-ability concerns go out the window, and a 6" barrel is a great idea. The +P loads will be a little bit faster than the standard .45ACP, so that will help some, too.
I'm sure Bar-Sto or someone COULD make a custom 8" G20 barrel. It would likely be expensive and could cause cycling issues. You would get some SERIOUS velocity from an 8" 10mm barrel, though. Lone Wolf makes a threaded 6.6" barrel for the G20, I think.
Last edited by 21Carrier; 08-14-2011 at 09:03..
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08-14-2011, 09:27
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WOW!
The placement shot on that deer was rediculous. 100%+ on that video
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08-14-2011, 09:48
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Originally Posted by Texcowboy
Good Luck, I have had a 10MM conversion barrel on backorder for going on 2 months at Glockmeister they have none for the G21 or the G30. I couldnt fine anyone with them, but I can wait!
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OK, I couldnt wait, cancelled the order and bought a G20SF. What a great handgun. I am carrying silvertips in it for SD now, but have a mag loaded with Buffalo Bore 180 gr JHC (1350fps). The Buffalo Bores ROCK !
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08-14-2011, 09:52
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Love that video thanks for the link! I LOVE my G-20 and will never get rid of her!
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08-14-2011, 10:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfire SVT
May be a noob question but why 10mm over other calibers to hunt with?
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Why indeed, there are way better Calibers for Hunting.
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