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Old 07-17-2011, 15:41   #51
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Darkangel, what are the specs on that DT beartooth load?
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Old 07-17-2011, 15:57   #52
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I do believe it was a 200gr hardcast Wide Flat Nose gas-checked bullet
1300 fps , 750 ft/lbs

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Old 07-17-2011, 15:57   #53
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I wouldn't mind a Delta Elite, but Id have to have some work done to it. I don't like the way it comes in stock form. Id need a short trigger, beavertail grip safety, different hammer, grips and sights. After all that Id have some serious money involved. Not to mention ammo. Glock 20 is a much more practical decision for me, but either would be a great choice.
Great point, that's why I have a G20, but I eventually want to get a 1911 in 10mm. Either a DE with the kind of work you mentioned, or a Wilson TE.
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Old 07-17-2011, 16:51   #54
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I do believe it was a 200gr hardcast Wide Flat Nose gas-checked bullet
1300 fps , 750 ft/lbs

Sounds like a nice load. Would have to get an aftermarket barrel to fire that one out of the G20.
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Old 07-17-2011, 16:58   #55
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Yes,.....an aftermarket barrel like a Bar-Sto would be outstansing.
I do have a 1988 Delta,......the Double Taps shoot very well.

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Beartooth was a particular bulled Double Tap used for a while.
They no longer use it, they are using the WFNGC now. Must be a hard cast made to their specs

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Old 07-17-2011, 17:05   #56
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I will throw in my .02, which may not even be worth that. I have had my G20 since somewhere around 1998. I have shot everything Black Talons to Blazers and every friend's "recipe" in between. the gun has never failed me with any 10mm load, and I lost track of round count around the 5-6k mark. I haven't shot it much since turning to the 1911, but part of the appeal to me at least was the fact that I could get conversion barrels for it and extend the platform to shoot both .357 sig and .40 sw. I also added an AA .22 conversion kit, and in a very small package, I have four calibers to play with. I will add that I haven't found a .40 round yet that is very reliable, but it reduces the cost of range sessions and I don't/wouldn't carry .40 in it anyway. no issues at all with the other two conversions. all that said, I love the 10mm and would love an STI 2011 one day. I don't think you can make a mistake either way, and I can't bring myself to recommend the G20 over the Delta - especially only having real experience on one side of the argument.

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Old 07-17-2011, 17:50   #57
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I will throw in my .02, which may not even be worth that. I have had my G20 since somewhere around 1998. I have shot everything Black Talons to Blazers and every friend's "recipe" in between. the gun has never failed me with any 10mm load, and I lost track of round count around the 5-6k mark. I haven't shot it much since turning to the 1911, but part of the appeal to me at least was the fact that I could get conversion barrels for it and extend the platform to shoot both .357 sig and .40 sw. I also added an AA .22 conversion kit, and in a very small package, I have four calibers to play with. I will add that I haven't found a .40 round yet that is very reliable, but it reduces the cost of range sessions and I don't/wouldn't carry .40 in it anyway. no issues at all with the other two conversions. all that said, I love the 10mm and would love an STI 2011 one day. I don't think you can make a mistake either way, and I can't bring myself to recommend the G20 over the Delta - especially only having real experience on one side of the argument.

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Good post. I haven't tried any conversion barrels in my G20 yet. I've been threatening to get a 9x25 Dillon barrel for it for years. I have quite a bit of experience with the Delta Elite. My buddy had a Stainless Gold Cup Match Delta Elite, and it jammed on alot of different rounds. I'm sure it could've been made to be better, with a good smiff's work, but it wasn't as reliable as my G20 by ANY stretch. That being said, I'm still gonna get a 1911 in 10mm and maybe even a Delta Elite, someday in the future.
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Old 07-17-2011, 21:41   #58
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I only have experience with Glock 20SF. Never had aby problems and it likes the hot rounds. If I need it I like the 15 rounds available and another 15 in an extra mag.
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Old 07-18-2011, 17:56   #59
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Darkangel, what are the specs on that DT beartooth load?
I'm not Darkangel, .... but DT offers two heavy WFNGC loads, a 200gn & 230gn.

Here's the link to the specs on the 230gn 10mm WFNGC ammo:

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...roducts_id=158

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Old 07-18-2011, 19:37   #60
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What kind of inherent accuracy can be expected with both pistols? Would the Colt and the Glock be considered equals accuracy wise?
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Old 07-18-2011, 19:45   #61
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What kind of inherent accuracy can be expected with both pistols? Would the Colt and the Glock be considered equals accuracy wise?
In my experience with both, the Delta Elite outshoots the G20. In my hands anyway.
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Old 07-18-2011, 21:22   #62
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i have both. use an extra power recoil spring (at least 26 pounds) with the CDE if youre using real 10mm loads. mine has a nice BTGS so it is quite comfortable to shoot versus the previous stock GS.

my G20 is so damn good all i did was upgrade the recoil spring/rod assy to a 22 pounder.

if "lookin at" was the game my CDE would win, if just for craps and giggles on the range it aint bad either. plus its a Colt and all the pride and "status" of owning one.....like a Harley Davidson thing.....but....

if i had to depend on just one for defense it would be my G20. it handles real 10mm loads better than my CDE.
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Old 07-19-2011, 15:10   #63
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Thanks guys..

agtman, that 230 grain looks like a hard hitter.
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Old 07-19-2011, 17:52   #64
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Glock 20 is the superior weapon.

Delta Elite looks much cooler.


It's all about your priorities.
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Old 07-19-2011, 22:18   #65
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Glock 20 is the superior weapon.

Delta Elite looks much cooler.


It's all about your priorities.
I never understand it when people post stupid statements like this.
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Old 07-19-2011, 22:33   #66
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Old 07-20-2011, 19:21   #67
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All I can say is that I have Colt Delta Elite and it is an absolute nail driver. I don't shoot it a lot, but I always hit what i'm pointing at.
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Old 07-29-2011, 13:28   #68
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Good luck finding a new Delta Elite....I've been checking for a few months and haven't been able to find one a newly manufactured one. There was one on GunBroker, and after chacking the serial # it was manufactured in 2009, and I stopped bidding after it reached $1,200.00

Buy what you like and what you can afford, because hopefully, your life will never rely on which one you purchased...
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Old 07-29-2011, 13:30   #69
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I just picked up the DE I ordered through my LGS 5 months ago. I bought one NIB off GB as well.

They do seem difficult to find sometimes.
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I have been thinking a delta would be hard to find. Ah well, this might make my decision a whole lot easier.
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You don't have the knowledge to evaluate this statement, so why comment and make yourself look foolish?
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Glock 20 is the superior weapon.

Delta Elite looks much cooler.


It's all about your priorities.
I agree. My G20 has been 100% with any and everything you can put in it. And that's coming from a Delta Elite and 1911 fan. My buddies Delta Elite Gold Cup Match was a jam-o-mattic. Accurate, but unreliable.
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Old 07-30-2011, 05:23   #74
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Guys, this has been a great thread and I appreciate all the insight and helpful comments.

Now do me a favor, let's keep the insults and bickering down to a minimum.

Thanks,

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Guys, this has been a great thread and I appreciate all the insight and helpful comments.

Now do me a favor, let's keep the insults and bickering down to a minimum.

Thanks,

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I haven't seen any insults, but, bickering is gonna happen. We all have our own opinions.
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