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Old 07-15-2011, 15:52   #21
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Carrying a .44 mag is a good option. The only problem I have with it is that I am LE, and my agency only authorizes us to carry certain pistols and revolvers off duty. The Colt and Glock are both authorized.
That sucks. I guess you're stuck with those two then.
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Old 07-15-2011, 15:56   #22
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Not knowing your hand size the average hand can get more purchase on the Delta Elite grip, glove or not. Something else to consider, the grips are wrap around rubber with the Colt.
Aftermarket grips work great with the Delta Elite.

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As far as cold hands- if your hand is cold, the gun will be too unless you carry IWB close to the skin. Being steel the Colt backstrap will feel colder to the touch. If you wear gloves, it won't matter.
Yep. If it's that cold then your bare hands wouldn't feel squat between the steel and the plastic. Better be wearing gloves. If it's only midly cold and if you have to take your weapon out for action, then the adrenaline will make sure that your hands and your whole body feel nice & warm.

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I don't believe you will get into weather conditions that would cause the Delta Elite to fail, but theoretically the Glock would fair better if such a condition existed.
I can't imagine a cop whose duty would bring him out into the woods, crawling in mud and such enough to jam up a handgun. If that's the case, then better bring a long arm as the primary weapon and put the handgun in a chest harness to keep it out of the elements or something.
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Those are both good guns. Personally I like the Delta better. I think it would come down to which fit your hand better, or which you shot better.
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I don't believe you will get into weather conditions that would cause the Delta Elite to fail, but theoretically the Glock would fair better if such a condition existed.

Whose theory?

I think a Glock may be more durable, as in it'll go for more rounds before a catastrophic failure, but if a 1911 is in good working order, it stands up to the elements quite well.
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Whose theory?

I think a Glock may be more durable, as in it'll go for more rounds before a catastrophic failure, but if a 1911 is in good working order, it stands up to the elements quite well.
I didn't quote a specifc theory. You can refer to it as the theory of tolerances in adverse conditions if you like. The theory and $6 will get you an iced frappucino at Starbucks.

As far as a 1911 standing up to the elements we agree.

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I didn't quote a specifc theory. You can refer to it as the theory of tolerances in adverse conditions if you like. The theory and $6 will get you an iced frappucino at Starbucks.

As far as a 1911 standing up to the elements we agree.

Iced frappucino... Never had one but I bet it would be good with some bourbon it! And if that was the case, I'll take the 1911.
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Iced frappucino... Never had one but I bet it would be good with some bourbon it!
Dunno, never have the flask with me when I hit up Starbucks.
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Old 07-15-2011, 18:05   #28
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I have a G29SF and 2 Deltas. The trigger and the grip are so different it would be hard to compare. But for reliable operation no matter how bad the conditions, the Glock may be slightly better because of its' tough durable finish. I don' think capacity is that big of an issue considering you're not dealing with 2 legged critters. If you need more than 9 rounds, you're in deep doo doo in any event. Go with the one that you shoot better. If it's a tie, your call.
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Old 07-15-2011, 18:38   #29
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Old 07-15-2011, 18:48   #30
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Best looking Delta Elite I've ever seen. Was that built by Vic when he was out on his own, before going back to Wilson? Looks like his handiwork, especially that deep dish crown. GREAT looking gun. Got anyother pics you can post of it?

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Old 07-15-2011, 19:03   #31
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Carrying a .44 mag is a good option. The only problem I have with it is that I am LE, and my agency only authorizes us to carry certain pistols and revolvers off duty. The Colt and Glock are both authorized.
So what you are telling us is you can't carry any gun that you want when on you're own time. Man you are kidding right? So you go deer hunting and they are you're only choices. If that is true that must suck.
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Old 07-15-2011, 19:14   #32
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So what you are telling us is you can't carry any gun that you want when on you're own time.
I think it depends on each agencies policy. A friend who works for a local PD can carry his choice after he qualifies with it. As far as I know, he has to use issued ammunition when he carries off duty.

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Old 07-15-2011, 19:24   #33
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Best looking Delta Elite I've ever seen. Was that built by Vic when he was out on his own, before going back to Wilson? Looks like his handiwork, especially that deep dish crown. GREAT looking gun. Got anyother pics you can post of it?
Thank you!

Yes, this one was one of the last 1911s Vic worked on, as I understand the chronology, before he returned to Wilson. Not only that deep-dish crown, but the "scallops" on the slide near the muzzle are also Tibbets' trademarks.

Besides being a very talented pistolsmith, Vic's a really nice guy ...
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So what you are telling us is you can't carry any gun that you want when on you're own time.
Unfortunately this is the way it is in my agency.
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agtman, Vic Tibbets does some nice work. Why does he scallop the front of the slides? Aesthetic appeal or for improved holstering?
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I think it depends on each agencies policy. A friend who works for a local PD can carry his choice after he qualifies with it. As far as I know, he has to use issued ammunition when he carries off duty.
That's true Mr. G., every agency is different. It was only about ten years ago that we were allowed to carry semi automatics off duty (not including our duty weapon). We could only carry .38/.357 snubbies prior.
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agtman, Vic Tibbets does some nice work. Why does he scallop the front of the slides? Aesthetic appeal or for improved holstering?
Mostly for creating a unique, rakish look (aesthetics) - but functionally the scallops are sufficiently deep that you could do a "press check," if needed.

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For a woods gun, I'll take my Ruger Vaquero or SuperBlackhawk in short barrel and loaded with Hornady .44 Mag Leverevolution loads.
yup. perfect scenario for that firearm.

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Carrying a .44 mag is a good option. The only problem I have with it is that I am LE, and my agency only authorizes us to carry certain pistols and revolvers off duty. The Colt and Glock are both authorized.
you're regulated off duty? man, that's messed up.
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