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Old 06-22-2011, 18:52   #1
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Which 1911?

I own two 1911s, both purchased used. The first is a Loaded Springfield Armory Stainless. The second is a Colt Trophy Match. I'm a novice as far as 1911s go. Can anyone offer insight as to which is better? Which is more accurate? Which is more reliable? Are there any inherent problems with either?
If the time comes that I can only keep one, which one?
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Old 06-22-2011, 19:00   #2
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Which is better or more accurate? You tell us. You will get differing opinions. Keep whichever one you shoot better.
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Old 06-22-2011, 19:24   #3
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Which is better or more accurate? You tell us. You will get differing opinions. Keep whichever one you shoot better.
I agree.
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Old 06-22-2011, 19:37   #4
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If the time comes that I can only keep one, which one?


Judging from you sig line, you'll have a bunch of Glocks to liquidize before you put have to put a 1911 on the choppin' block!
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Old 06-22-2011, 19:48   #5
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I own two 1911s, both purchased used. The first is a Loaded Springfield Armory Stainless. The second is a Colt Trophy Match. I'm a novice as far as 1911s go. Can anyone offer insight as to which is better? Which is more accurate? Which is more reliable? Are there any inherent problems with either?
If the time comes that I can only keep one, which one?
Is that a Colt Gold Cup Trophy?
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Old 06-22-2011, 20:09   #6
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Is that a Colt Gold Cup Trophy?
Yes. Sorry that's what I meant. Gold Cup Trophy.
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Old 06-22-2011, 20:10   #7
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Yes. Sorry that's what I meant. Gold Cup Trophy.
I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
I agree. Never handled a Loaded that impressed me in the least.
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Old 06-22-2011, 21:40   #9
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I like my Springfield Loaded models, but if the Colt shoots even close to the SA, keep it, as it will likely have higher-quality internals than the SA.
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Old 06-23-2011, 03:45   #10
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The Springfield shoots very nicely. Haven't had an opportunity to shoot the Colt yet. The Springfield seems front heavy, the Colt seems to have better balance.
Should I put in a heavier spring in either gun when shooting hotter defensive loads like Cor-Bon or Doubletap?
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Old 06-23-2011, 07:43   #11
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Yes, defensive loads require heavy spring. Gold Cups have VERY light mainspring and recoil spring.
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Old 06-23-2011, 15:41   #12
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Since you bought them both used it's hard to say. Some Gold Cups came with two recoil springs, one for wadcutter (ight) loads, and one for standard ammo.

If you can compare the SA and Colt springs and the Colt feels softer, use the SA recoil spring for ammo testing, or buy a new 16 - 18 lb spring.
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Old 06-23-2011, 17:17   #13
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I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
+10 Colts may or not be some of the best but hold there value very well.
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Old 06-24-2011, 18:45   #14
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I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
Me too.

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Old 06-24-2011, 20:17   #16
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+10 Colts may or not be some of the best but hold there value very well.
Yes they do
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:49   #17
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Colts are definitely the best 1911 when it comes to extracting....money from your bank account.

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Old 06-25-2011, 22:06   #18
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Ditch the Springer Loaded, keep the Gold Cup.
If your Gold Cup won't shoot at least twice as good as the Springer I'd be shocked.
I have a Loaded and it sucks.
I have had many telephone conversations with techs at Sprinfiled.
The Loaded is only gaurunteed to shoot 3.5 inch groups benched at 25 yards.
My Gold Cup Trophy shoots 1.25" with any good load.
Better if I'm having a good range session.
Nothing helps the Loaded.
I got suckered into dropping large bucks on the Springfiled TRP.
BIG mistake.
It shot 5 inches and worse with any load I tried and shoot an average of 10 inches high.
That's a nearly $1500.00 handgun.
Back to the factory it went.
4 weeks later it came back shooted dead on and decent groups of under 2 inches.
After about 25 rounds the pistol literally ground to a halt.
It stopped working completely. I took it apart and found stainless steel shavings had gotten into the rails and really gouged them up big time.
Back to the shop with a nasty letter.
It came back in a week, no gouges, how they got them out is a mystery to me.
With Win231 and 200 grain XTP's it shoots 1.25 " c to c regularly.
That's the way it should have been in the first place.
To me he very BEST 1911 factory bult 1911 is the Kimber, bar none.
I have 3 Kimbers.
All shoot like a Gold Cup.
My 10 year old Eclipse with adj. night sights will outshoot the Gold Cup with select loads.
I'm ditching the Loaded a.s.a.p. and putting the money aside to build up some bucks for another full size Kimber.
If the TRP behaves, does not break down, continues shooting so well I'll reluctantly keep it.
Any Glock will outshoot any Loaded any day of the week.
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...Any Glock will outshoot any Loaded any day of the week.


While that may be true of the single example you own, I know it's not true for them all.
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My Gold Cup Trophy shoots 1.25" with any good load. Better if I'm having a good range session.

I'd like to see some targets showing a 1.25" or better group at 25 yards from your good range session.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:13   #21
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I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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yes, yes yes. all from a guy whose shot many highend 1911's. and this advice from a guy whose shot many low end 1911's. do they have their faults, of course. all manufacturing facilities do. it mass production. hurry, hurry, hurry. production schudules to meet. but the steel is better, less mim. and for those that don't believe that, google. and this advice comes from a lifelong colt fan whose owned 8 that were flawless since 84 or 85. can't say the same for others. yes they're other very good 19ll's being built, but i am a brand loyal colt fan and it's my first choice always in a sub 1000 gun. same thing for fords. i'm very brand loyal. not trying to start an arguement, jmo. and a certain guy named flipper, with 10 yrs expierence is not going to top a production colt. 10 yrs expierence does not a firearm genius make, or 20 for that matter. this country owes that man it's freedom you must read John Browning, American Gunmaker. fabulous read. don't get me wrong. im not the jealous type who can't afford a highend custom 1911. one at sacs and one a css. damn they are slow. if i could carry a high end it would be bear stinger and a 4in css.

name me more than a handful of shooters that can shot a 1" group at 50 yrs offand with a 1in guarantee, and i'll stand corrected. if i were to by a bear or wilson with the 1" guarantee. my 2 in groups at 40 ft serves me just fine in a defensive situation, as it does most folks. again, no rant, just the truth. and these truths come from almost 30 yrs of expierence, not 4 or 5 yrs.

please don't degrade this into an arguement. it's just my opinion. which we all know means squat. i bought a kimber pro carry that simply wouldn't funtion. sent it back twice. still, i'd buy another. it's just a bad one that got thru.

i l love colts and always will.
waiting for the colt haters.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:32   #22
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Colts are excellent 1911s, particularly when it comes to extracting and feeding.

Extracting money from your bank account and feed it into Colt's.

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why do you post here?
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why do you post here?
Unreal isnt.

No Colt hating on my part. I love'm.
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I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
+ eleventy billion.
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