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Old 02-15-2011, 11:54   #51
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looks like people love the Speer gold dot followed by Federal HST and Winchester Ranger t's . great info, keep them coming
You know what else I'm noticing with these responses?

See how many members carry the compact Glocks rather than the sub-compacts? Look at how many carry the G23 over the G27.
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:03   #52
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first off, what Glock do you use as your primary carry or home defense gun? Glock 23
what caliber? .40S&W
what brand of ammo? Winchester
what series of the brand? PDX1
what grain is the ammo you use? 180gr.
what made you to start using this ammo(example. reviews,articles,personal experimenting ect.)? Designed for FBI, Good enough for them, Good enough for me. Plus GREAT expansion
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:30   #53
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Old 02-15-2011, 13:02   #54
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You know what else I'm noticing with these responses?

See how many members carry the compact Glocks rather than the sub-compacts? Look at how many carry the G23 over the G27.
Because the subs suck. I think most people who "like" them don't ever shoot them.

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Old 02-15-2011, 14:04   #55
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Because the subs suck. I think most people who "like" them don't ever shoot them.
It might not be unfair to suspect that a great many owners of all type, manner and size handguns might not regularly shoot them.

Granted, all things considered, the larger the handgun the easier most folks feel it to be when it comes to handling, manipulating and especially shooting them. Not surprising.

For example, it's not uncommon to read quite a number of occasional postings in this forum where owners of subcompacts state they feel they need to use magazine floorplate extensions in order to be able to have a support for the little fingers.

While I like to use the curved extensions (which don't add capacity) on a few of my G26/27 magazines so they're easier to firmly seat in the shortened grip of the guns when carried as spare magazines, I usually use magazines with standard flat floorplates as the primary mags carried in the guns.

Personally, I wouldn't go so far as to say that "subs suck" in broad general terms. Different strokes, and all that ...

Having invested many thousands of rounds shooting them, myself, I've even discovered that they make shooting my larger handguns seem even easier.

I also suspect that a number of folks may gravitate to smaller pistol (and revolver) platforms which may be harder for them to shoot, and then give insufficient attention to the mastering using the smaller guns.

I certainly found myself investing extra range time with increasingly smaller guns when I started to carry compact and subcompact pistols some years ago ... and renewed my interest in carrying and using J-frames.
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Old 02-15-2011, 14:23   #56
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G27--For carry. 165 grain PDX1

G22--HD. First 10 are 135 gr HST then last 6 are 180 gr PDX1.

Did a lot of reading and research as well as shooting with my wife. She did the best with the 135's. The 180's are for just in case.
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Old 02-15-2011, 14:38   #57
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G23 Gen 4
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Until something else comes out, I selected the Federal HSTs for 9, 40 and 45 based on some law enforcement ballistic workshop results which are compiled in the following series of PDFs:
http://le.atk.com/general/irl/woundballistics.aspx
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Old 02-15-2011, 15:08   #58
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The fact that fragments like the old 125gr .357 magnum loads. Which is what the .357 sig was designed to replicate. That, and the fact that it squirts out of a 4 inch barrel at 1400 fps and change.
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Old 02-15-2011, 15:20   #59
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first off, what Glock do you use as your primary carry or home defense gun?
what caliber?
what brand of ammo?
what series of the brand?
what grain is the ammo you use?
what made you to start using this ammo(example. reviews,articles,personal experimenting ect.)?
Glock G30SF (CCW and home defense)
.45 ACP (10+1)
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Gold Dot JHP
230gr

Speer Gold Dot JHP is extensively tested by Law Enforcement for penetration, expansion and retained weight and has a good reputation among LEO. Test data is readily available to the general public on the Internet. It's available at affordable prices from online ammo suppliers. Speer makes a companion Lawman 230gr FMJ round for range practice that closely matches the recoil and accuracy of the Gold Dot JHP.

Other SD ammo I'm evaluating for future use:

SwampFox Nickel +P Brass Premium Max Velocity 230gr Hornady XTP JHP, 1050 fps, 565 ft-lbs. energy (very impressive energy for .45 ACP load with proven Hornady XTP bullet)

Federal HST 230gr +P LE JHP, 960 fps, 470 ft-lbs. energy (same justification as with Speer GDHP)
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Old 02-15-2011, 15:24   #60
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Primary Carry is G-17 with Truglo TFO night sights
Primary HD is G-19 bone stock Speer Gold Dot 147s in both
Back ups are Kimber CS II, and Colt Mk IV Ser 80 both 5"
Both fully loaded with Winchester Ranger T 230 gr

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Old 02-15-2011, 15:38   #61
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Gen 3 19c - Winchester ranger in right now
If I find a deal on a proven ammo then I stock up.
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Old 02-15-2011, 15:46   #62
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Glock 23 gen4 and G22 Gen4.

Winchester Supreme Elite Bonded PDX1 40 S&W.

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Old 02-15-2011, 16:22   #63
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Old 02-15-2011, 16:48   #64
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G19 it is and Speer Gold Dots 147gr GDHP
As a Newbie, I'm not sure how to decide between 124 and 147gr. Why do you carry the 147g?
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Old 02-15-2011, 17:01   #65
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In the wheel guns I like the Winchester Silver Tips and in the Glocks I like the Speer Gold Dots. But there are others out there that are great.
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Old 02-15-2011, 17:19   #66
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G19 or G26 Speer Gold Dot 124 grain JHP
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Old 02-15-2011, 17:25   #67
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Winchester Ranger T series 124 gr +P in a G19
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Old 02-15-2011, 17:45   #68
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Mod. 21 with Remington Golden Sabers. (230 gr.) I like the low-flash powder.

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Old 02-15-2011, 17:48   #69
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As a Newbie, I'm not sure how to decide between 124 and 147gr. Why do you carry the 147g?
Be aware that there's a difference between 124gr and 124gr +P. The +P is more powerful. As long as you buy quality defensive cartridges like many of those mentioned in this thread, you can't go wrong with either 124gr +P or 147gr, don't over think it. Some folks, especially older ones, just prefer the heavier, slower moving bullets over the lighter and faster ones, same reason why so many people still prefer the .45 ACP.

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Old 02-15-2011, 17:54   #70
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Well during the colder months I carry Winchester Supreme Elite Bonded PDX1 .40 S&W 165 Gr. and during the warmer months I carry Winchester Ranger .40 S&W 135 Gr.
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Old 02-15-2011, 17:57   #71
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Glock 19 with Gold Dots for the wife
Bed gun will be Colt 1911 .45 - need to decide on ammo
Currently Glock 23 with Federal HST's...
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Old 02-15-2011, 17:58   #72
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Old 02-15-2011, 17:58   #73
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Speer GD 124gr +P, have not found anything that outperforms it consistently yet.
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Glock 17 9mm.
124gr. +P Speer Gold Dot.
I like the fact that it's a bonded bullet. All tests seem to indicate that it performs well in tests with most all media. I think the only thing I can think to say about the round that would detract from it is that the French use it.
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