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02-11-2011, 07:53
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Why would you even pull the case to load a charge. Just use a charge die. Lower the handle, charge the case by hand, raise the handle and do it all again.
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02-11-2011, 08:04
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Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
Why would you even pull the case to load a charge. Just use a charge die. Lower the handle, charge the case by hand, raise the handle and do it all again.
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Steve read all of what I said.
Yes I know it is easy to change out the die on the LNL. But I was talking about the 550 and 650.
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02-11-2011, 09:31
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Thanks Steve, you just gave me and idea. Will be leaving here shortly for mouse land for the Orlando GSSF match. So when I get back will have to check it out and see if it well work?
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02-11-2011, 09:33
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Maybe we just don't understand eachother. I would not pull the case on the LnL or the 650. Just use a charge die, lower the handle, charge the case, raise the handle and keep loading.
Nothing to do with changing the dies.
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02-11-2011, 09:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
Maybe we just don't understand eachother. I would not pull the case on the LnL or the 650. Just use a charge die, lower the handle, charge the case, raise the handle and keep loading.
Nothing to do with changing the dies.
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I have found that it is just as easy to pull the case at station 3 add the powder, and then put the case back at station 4. Don’t have to change anything. Did it the same way with the 550 except pulled the case at 3 and put the case back at 3.
Granted there are a lot of different ways in doing this. I have I think tried them all. But for me I think this is the easiest and fastest way of doing it. If I had a tool head set up for like doing rifle and I wanted to weight every charge then yes I would do it like you said. I was speaking more of short runs of ammo that I want to try a different powder, or for load development. We are saying the same thing but I think we are talking about different application.
Forgot to add yes I understand what you are saying.
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02-11-2011, 10:04
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is it recommended to weigh each charge for a SD Hollowpoint round? should I only be reloading for cheaper range ammo and always purchase my SD rounds?
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02-11-2011, 10:28
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You only need to be weighting the max loads. Your not going to be making very many max loads in your life.
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02-11-2011, 10:29
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Originally Posted by unclebob
I have found that it is just as easy to pull the case at station 3 add the powder, and then put the case back at station 4. Don’t have to change anything. Did it the same way with the 550 except pulled the case at 3 and put the case back at 3.
Granted there are a lot of different ways in doing this. I have I think tried them all. But for me I think this is the easiest and fastest way of doing it. If I had a tool head set up for like doing rifle and I wanted to weight every charge then yes I would do it like you said. I was speaking more of short runs of ammo that I want to try a different powder, or for load development. We are saying the same thing but I think we are talking about different application.
Forgot to add yes I understand what you are saying.
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I get what your saying now.
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02-11-2011, 10:36
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Originally Posted by .50 cal
is it recommended to weigh each charge for a SD Hollowpoint round? should I only be reloading for cheaper range ammo and always purchase my SD rounds?
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Disregarding the potential, or non-potential legal ramifications, that subject has been argued to death, why would anyone rely on their self-admitted limited knowledge and experience to try and replicate something that is so readily available?
If you have never seeded a back yard would you start your gardening career by building a golf course? Unlikely... you'd hire a professional.
In the absence of alternatives would you pull your own impacted tooth? Again, unlikely, you'd seek the assistance of a trained dentist.
If you had no experience in operating a lathe or mill and had no mechanical engineering training would you attempt build your own gun and carry it with the expectation of relying on it in social encounters? Probably not, you'd simply go to a gun store and choose one that met your needs.
Realistically ammunition designed for serious situations is no different, no matter your individual need, (within reason) there are more than adequate choices available commercially that have been tested ad nauseam with product comparisons littering the internet.
A viable option is to learn to become a competent and knowledgeable loader which will provide you with enough inexpensive ammunition to develop and hone your skills as a shooter. One who is armed with the magical one shot, one stop bullet is useless if they can't hit the sky with a helium balloon. Practice and resulting competency is far more important than what resides in the chamber.
Buy a couple boxes of what ever SD ammunition you determine will meet your needs, fire enough of it to satisfy yourself as to functioning reliability then concentrate on loading copious amounts of training ammunition and shoot enough that all facets of the activity become second nature.
You're going to be in a lot more situations where you can make wagers with your friends and walk away with their folding money than you are being faced with a social encounter.
Jack
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02-11-2011, 14:25
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02-11-2011, 17:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unclebob
Thanks Steve, you just gave me and idea. Will be leaving here shortly for mouse land for the Orlando GSSF match. So when I get back will have to check it out and see if it well work?
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Good luck Bob. I love shooting GSSF.
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02-11-2011, 20:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unclebob
Thanks Steve, you just gave me and idea. Will be leaving here shortly for mouse land for the Orlando GSSF match. So when I get back will have to check it out and see if it well work?
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Good luck at the match.
What idea did I give you?
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02-12-2011, 08:21
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I am going to chime in here and say that the more you stop the reloading rhythm to weigh your charges, the better the chance of getting a squib round or a double charge. Weigh your charge at the begining, set the powder measure, then reload your rounds. Simple, easy, and safe.
At some point you have to trust the press to do the job.
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02-12-2011, 14:36
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Originally Posted by BigDog[RE]
I am going to chime in here and say that the more you stop the reloading rhythm to weigh your charges, the better the chance of getting a squib round or a double charge. Weigh your charge at the begining, set the powder measure, then reload your rounds. Simple, easy, and safe.
At some point you have to trust the press to do the job.
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I have been saying the same thing for a while.
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02-12-2011, 14:47
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Originally Posted by Boxerglocker
I agree with Jack's statements, well thought out reply with merit. However not realistic at all.
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02-14-2011, 20:22
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Originally Posted by RustyFN
Good luck Bob. I love shooting GSSF.
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Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
Good luck at the match.
What idea did I give you?
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Thanks. I don’t think I did to bad not having adding up my scores yet or are they posted yet. Like I said I don’t think I did too badly for not even picking up a gun since the Pensacola match in November.
The idea I had, was at station 2 for the powder measure. Was drill and tap the hole for the LNL Bushing. But there is just not enough room in the tool head to do that.
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02-15-2011, 03:51
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The first time i reloaded I deprimed them first and media got stuck in the primer hole... never again.
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