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Old 06-07-2010, 23:16   #21
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Right now I have the 155 grain XTP as my carry load for my Glock 22. I like the velocity of the 155 grain and the XTP's penetration. A good combination for me. Lots of other good choices as well. I think you would have to work pretty hard to find a bad 155, 165, or 180 grain JHP. The 40 S&W loads have been pretty well perfected over the years.
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Old 06-08-2010, 14:38   #22
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Dont get me wrong, the 180gr gold dots are a great choice in rounds especially if your traveling. But the 165gr gold dots are best as a carry load. I ust found out that i live a block away from palmetto state armory and all this time i have been driving to lawmans. They have the 50 box of 180gr Federal HST loads for 24.95... Think i will pick up those over the 135gr.
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Old 06-08-2010, 14:52   #23
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Dont get me wrong, the 180gr gold dots are a great choice in rounds especially if your traveling. But the 165gr gold dots are best as a carry load. I ust found out that i live a block away from palmetto state armory and all this time i have been driving to lawmans. They have the 50 box of 180gr Federal HST loads for 24.95... Think i will pick up those over the 135gr.
What in the world does traveling have to do with this?

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Old 06-08-2010, 17:33   #24
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No thanks to 165gr Gold dot unless you live in a nudist colony or near the equator where heavy clothing isn't a concern.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1084469

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1157528

I'd go 180gr Gold Dot if that is your brand of choice.

Those of you looking for HST "street cred" or think it only works in "Gello" should read DOCGKRs quote from m4carbine.net (see below)

"FWIW, the HST is currently being used here--it is performing as well or perhaps slightly better in OIS incidents than the Ranger-T that was issued for the previous decade..."

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Old 06-08-2010, 17:39   #25
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Old 06-08-2010, 21:54   #26
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What in the world does traveling have to do with this?

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I was only stating that i could pay $3 more and go to Palmetto State Armory and get the 180gr Federal HSTs compared to 22.95 for the Federal 135gr JHP sold at walmart. 50 Rounds of 180gr HSTs who could beat that. I can say tho, i like nickle plated brass over brass. But thats what you sacrafice when you go cheap.

But I am down for the 180gr gold dots if you dont care too much about expansion or over penetration. Like stated before they are good if glass, car doors, or light cover is involved. But as far as coats or flesh the 165gr gold dots will do.
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Old 06-08-2010, 22:00   #27
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PDX1, or go for winchesters LEO over run, 180gr bonded.
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Old 06-08-2010, 22:01   #28
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the federal loads Im referring to are the XM40HC
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Old 06-08-2010, 22:12   #29
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50 Rounds of 180gr HSTs who could beat that. I can say tho, i like nickle plated brass over brass. But thats what you sacrafice when you go cheap.


nickel plate brass makes no difference in quality guns. that's why the government contracts often don't include it. it's seen as an unnecessary expense.
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I was only stating that i could pay $3 more and go to Palmetto State Armory and get the 180gr Federal HSTs compared to 22.95 for the Federal 135gr JHP sold at walmart. 50 Rounds of 180gr HSTs who could beat that. I can say tho, i like nickle plated brass over brass. But thats what you sacrafice when you go cheap.

But I am down for the 180gr gold dots if you dont care too much about expansion or over penetration. Like stated before they are good if glass, car doors, or light cover is involved. But as far as coats or flesh the 165gr gold dots will do.
I like them all, I just misunderstood what you meant by "traveling", and was trying to understand how that would effect your ammo choice...

I like the 180's.. I don't think there's necessarily an over penetration issue..

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What i was only stating is that where i normally go to pick up SD ammo they mostly have the expensive stuff. You know, 20 rounds for $20 and so on. I was only saying i rather go and get the 180gr than the 135gr. And i was only speaking of over penetration with the 180gr gold dots. Those things travel. But i have no problems with the 180gr HSTs it was just before I did not know where to find them but now i do.
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Old 06-09-2010, 05:52   #32
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Federal 180gr HST or Speer Gold Dot 180g in my G22 and G27

165g would be my second choice.
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Old 06-09-2010, 18:06   #33
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Stopped by Palmetto State Armory today and so much ammo to choose from. Hornady tap 155gr for 16.99 and dozens of other brands for wide selection of calibers from handgun to rifle to shotgun. Great store great customer service and got a free hat. Picked up a 50 round box of Federal 180gr JHP for 24.99 plus tax. If your in or around columbia SC go check them out.

+1 for Palmetto State Armory. Cant wait till they open their indoor shooting range.
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:20   #34
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I know the thread has been dead for a while, but anyone have any good luck with hornady critical defense in 165gr? does it travel thru wood or glass well?

while doing ammo test, i had a 180gr HST get clogged going thru a half inch piece of wood and then passing straight through 4 jugs of water without expanding. found he round in the grass with wood stuffed in the cavity. Also had it punch through 5 old skateboard decks into 3 jugs of water. Still no expansion. or maybe i should have used paper and water in the jugs.
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Old 07-21-2010, 15:46   #35
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180gr HST
180gr Ranger T
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Old 07-21-2010, 17:15   #36
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155gr Gold Dot fan here. But my second favorite is the 165gr Gold Dot.
I agree!

If Gold Dot cannot be had, I would look for something else that is 'BONDED'

I believe some of the Ranger ammo is.

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i'm looking for something that would pass through a wooden, thick cloth, or glass bearier and still expand. I like the gold dots and the only place i can find them is at Lawmans and its the gold dot duty ammo. Dont know if they sale it or the Federal Tactical HST to civillians. Looking for something that would expand with no problems, may need to try a lighter load like a 165gr or 155gr.
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:37   #38
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Sigh... Not this garbage again

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garbage?
Yes.. Garbage.

To often, that list is perpetrated as "the best"... the problem in that test is, I want to see what ammo failed the test. The list is proclaimed as "the best" yet even the author admits it is not all inclusive.

It just annoys me when I see it frequently proclaimed that the list is "the best" when it is better quantified as " the best of what we tested" and list everything that was tested.

I like 180gr Gold Dots and PDX1's.. whether they are on that list or not, really doesn't matter at all to me, and wouldn't even begin to influence my decision on what to carry.

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I have shot 40 S&W loads in weights of 135 grain up to 200 grain and have never run across a load that could not be put to use as a SD loading. Some are geared more to deep penetration like the DT 200 grain hard cast but the hollow points that I have shot would all work just fine for SD as long as the shooter did his or her part.
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